A choice of same gender loving.

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Now we know a part of homosexuality is a choice.

What is your counter statement for those arguing that homosexual desires are not natural?

They say people aren't born with such an orientation.

Your thoughts.
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@Mall
This obviously comes from another thread, why do you make new threads like this? You should just keep responding in the original thread.
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How to satisfy ones procreational drive?

Homosexuality is one option.

I suppose that there are 4 basic options, which come with a variety of added extras.

And for sure, there are other extreme ways that some people achieve temporary sexual satisfaction.

Such are the results of physiological necessity enhanced by overthink.


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The urges arent really a choice. 

Some people have too strong urges.

They cannot resist.
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A "procreational" drive in homosexuality.

Is that so? Does the LGBT community agree with that?
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Ok what thread do you think this came from?
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@Mall
Procreational drive is an inherent biological force..

LGBT are just social constructs built around it.

The message is the same, but roleplay can be modified to suit..
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The lesbians , gays, bisexuals and transgenders are socially constructed around the procreational drive.

Please elaborate to the epicenter of what you're talking about.
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What is the purpose of sexuality?

And why do we make such a song and dance about it?

Which isn't to suggest, that inherent data simulations cannot be modified over time.


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"What is the purpose of sexuality?"

According to the body , sexual reproduction. According to social construction as you mentioned, depends on the social parameters in any given society really.

Sexuality and "procreational drive" are distinct. So when you say "procreational drive" and homosexuality, the two don't agree. A homosexual doesn't have a desire or urge to sexually reproduce. At least not in the facet of physical attraction. There's a desire to reach sexual climax. But this is where the cross wiring affects the so called procreational drive they would have if the desire was to climax with the opposite sex.

"And why do we make such a song and dance about it?"

Music is about expression. Man expresses desires which would include sexual among other things.

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I'm LGBT.  Other LGBT people say that their sexuality is not a choice and I believe them.  For me though; I feel like I a creative enough where I can be attracted to any gender I want, so for me at least it is a choice.
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@Mall
You're confusing a social construct with an inherent function.

A homosexual has the same urge as every other male.

Homosexuality is simply one way of satisfying that urge.

Most people these days, rarely seek to procreate every time they desire sexual satisfaction.
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The suicide rate in the homosexual group is of the chart.

The last thing a suicidal person should have around them is  ( i think ) 
 A suicidal person. 

You see Im a man . 
I like haveing sex with skinny sexy looking  hot chicks .
Their sweet pretty smell.
They have like flower dresses and stuff. 

Homosexual men on the other hand 
fuck men.

Wich is more manly..? 


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Remember what I said about the cross wiring that affects it being a "procreational" drive.

The disconnect here with the homosexuals and you is that the drive is there. That's the urge. 
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But is the "procreational" part attached to that?

Is that urge with a homosexual to be satisfied with the same sex or opposite ?


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A part of homosexuality is a choice for all homosexuals able body and mind.
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@Mall
Well I shouldn't need to lecture you on the Birds and the Bees.

But, the ejaculation of the male seed is what temporarily satisfies the urge.

Where that seed might end up, is anyone's guess.



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You're still just looking at the urge itself but that's ok.
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The human X chromosome with Xq28 (green) located at the tip of the long arm of the chromosome. Studies of the X chromosome as well as the entire human genome have linked Xq28 to the heredity of homosexuality in human males. Therefore homosexuality is not a choice, it is genetic.
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The only way for that to be true is for certain Xq28 variants to not cause homosexuality, if they all did and all males had it then there would be no way to correlate.

It then follows that there should be a population without the "gay gene".

Where are these populations?

Suppose people start aborting children with the gene?
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@Mall
The urge is derived from internal electro-chemical signals, a product of the endocrine system.

Are you concentrating to much on the socio-conceptuality of the issue. Wherein, you feel the need to justify a certain aspect of human behaviour.

I would suggest, a behaviour that despite concerted modern efforts, is still deeply rooted in archaic taboos.


And let me just stress, I care not who does what with who, in the bedroom or on the kitchen table.

As long as they are all consenting adults.

I have a liberal view of sexuality.

And perhaps a more conservative view of human biological systems..
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I don't know what is not clear of what I said.
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The idea that homosexuality is a choice exists so people who are anti-homosexuality don't have to accept it. They know it would be cruel to force someone against their own nature, so believing homosexuality is a choice (conscious or otherwise) is a much easier pill to swallow. You add religion into the mix, and it's a...duh. If someone believes god made everyone heterosexual for marriage and procreation then they're gonna have a tough time with homosexuality as a concept. So, to me, those who believe that homosexuality is a choice are operating a defense mechanism.

That said, you could say that homosexual behavior is a choice...but homosexual attraction is not. The amount of homosexual people with internalized homophobia who tried to force themselves into heterosexual relationships only to feel nothing should be evidence of this.
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Well stated.
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Right the behavior is a choice and that's plenty for anti-homosexual folks.