The real meaning of the Bible is very simple. It's about the vindication of Jehovah God's name through the ransom sacrifice of Christ Jesus.
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Like 77% of the Bible has nothing at all to do with Jesus.
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@Castin
Translation of mening – Norwegian–English dictionary
mening
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@RaymondSheen
The real meaning of the Bible is very simple. It's about the vindication of Jehovah God's name through the ransom sacrifice of Christ Jesus.
"Meaning"? Bollocks! There is no "meaning". The Old Testamant is a book of war and conquest. That tells the very patchy story of one bloodline and its very rocky, tumultuous relationship with its god that eventually became the nation of Jews.
The Old Testamant has nothing at all to do with the man Jesus aka the Christ. The New Testament is a contradictory ambiguous mess made up of half told stories concerning a man named Jesus that believed or was led to believe that he was rightful heir to the throne of Jerusalem but instead of inheriting "the throne of David" as was promised to his mother by god, he actually ended up inheriting two bits of wood, three nails and view overlooking the Kidron Valley....... A man that Christians have cloaked in a myth.
You don't seem to have learned much after your "30 fucking years" of study.#43
You do know there is ' pinky in mouth ' 10 diffrent verions of ye ol bible
Yes you hear correct,,
10 DIFFRENT VERSION.
Sooo we pic the religion
thats ovet 12 DIFFRENT TYPES
Then religious group .
Wich there is over
18 diffrent types of Christians.
Would make a fair pick if these were the numbers .
Book 7 with religions 8 and group 13.
Is the correct combo
With The tru numbers
The one and only real one was.
Book 28
Religion 7
Religious group 19,727
We where looking for
Shit my bad
Its book version # 32
The original christians isnt a real a thing sooooo,
If only
In the beginning god created the heavens and earth along with
1 book.
1 religion.
1 group.
The good times.
You knew what the deal was.
Then shit gets crazy.
And A second religion was born.
So thats like 2 then .
Making it a choice.
That fucking 2nd Monotheistic religion fucked it all .
THE FLOOD GATES BURST OPEN.
ITS Not the wwf
World wide flood .
Its just a big flood.
283 book .
261 religions
40,000 groups
Them low numbers are a show of courtesy.
You are welcome
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@Castin
You must of only read 23 percent.
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@RaymondSheen
Simplicity isn't enough for all to accept it.
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@Stephen
The old testament has prophecies about Jesus Christ.
Yessxsssss. I sense the words .
Biblical Scholar. being used in this post.
I Cant wait.
When it gets used you'll hear a
Dooododokdodododododkkd plop.
Like a piece of tin being hit. A bit like a woble board .
Thats the sound of a oxymoron bouncing back though the brain.
I cant wait.
Jesus is in the bible over 700 times .
I wreaked my best bible because someone told me .
Jesus is god.
Im not kidding
Soooo i thought, ill fix that.
I scratched out every jesus word and simply replaced it with god.
Then i was told ,
NO .
NO. it doesn't work like that.
I then asked but isnt jesus god.
He then replies with Yes.
But.
And before he got another word out.
I Insta-muteed him.
He should of said jesus is god here and here,
Here ,here and there.
Actully not that one .
That one yes .
No , no .
Them two.
And the next one .
Not that one .
Nor that.
That one is?
That one .
Sorry sorry . Thats second last one shouldn't of been .
That one .
And them three
Should i continue.
No .
Ok .
Now i got a e book bible .
I can watch my porn then by pressing one button its the bible .
Exodus. To creampies..
Revelations to. sexy step sisters
Matthew to Chloe.
Sooooo Lucky There is no dress code for this site.
So when i see a pastor with a computer tablet.
I um mmmm .
I know .
I know .
Oh shit .
Did i just type that out loud?
Why that stupid fucken cat.
His lying on my keyboard again .
Go on get you bastard.
Either way ,
Im debating
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@Mall
All weren't meant to accept it. Originally only the Jews, but due to religion and politics they rejected it. Unbelievers weren't meant to accept it. It's about faith. Those who have faith want paradise. If the unbelievers accepted it that would spoil it because they wouldn't be doing so out of faith but personal gain.
The Bible contains a relatively brief prologue from Genesis 1:1 - 3:14 which gives the account of the creation of the universe, earth and the living inhabitants, concluding with man and his fall from God's favor. Then Genesis 3:15 - Revelation 22:21 gives the account of Jehovah's plan for salvation through Christ.
The tree of the knowledge of good and bad represented, to Adam and Eve, Jehovah God's sovereignty. That is, his right, as our creator, to decide for us what was good and what was bad until we, like children, matured to the point where we could do that for ourselves within the parameters of that sovereignty. Knowledge is facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject. The knowledge in this case is experience. Good and bad had been defined by Jehovah and at that point it was very simple. Fill the earth and subdue it, that was good. Don't touch or eat the fruit of the tree, that was bad. The knowledge Adam and Eve had acquired was the decision to decide for themselves what was good and what was bad. That's why they suddenly considered nudity to be bad. (Genesis 2:25; 3:6-11)
The footnote to Genesis 2:17 in the 1966 Jerusalem Bible explains it really well: "This knowledge is a privilege which God reserves to himself and which man, by sinning, is to lay hands on, Genesis 3:5, 22. Hence it does not mean omniscience, which fallen man does not possess; nor is it moral discrimination, for unfallen man already had it and God could not refuse it to a rational being. It is the power of deciding for himself what is good and what is evil and of acting accordingly, a claim to complete moral independence by which man refuses to recognise his status as a created being. The first sin was an attack on God's sovereignty, a sin of pride."
God created Michael first. Then Michael, as Jehovah's master worker, created everything through Jehovah's Holy Spirit or active force. (Proverbs 8:22-31; Colossians 1:15-17; John 8:23; 17:5) The word Holy means sacred, or belonging to God. Spirit means an invisible active force, like wind, breath, mental inclination. Something that we can't see but that produces results that we can see. So, the holy spirit is God's active force, invisible to us. The first thing that Michael, through Jehovah's holy spirit, created, was the spiritual heavens. This was followed by the spirit beings, often called angels. (Job 38:4-7) Then the physical heavens, or universe, including Earth, the stars, sun and moon and finally everything on Earth eventually concluding with Adam and Eve.
The angels existed for a very long time before man was created, and they had time to mature, like children, so that they knew what was good and bad from their creator. (Genesis 1:26; 3:22) It is important that you understand that being created perfect is much like being born a baby. Parents see their newborn children as perfect, but think about it. They can't walk, talk, feed themselves, go to the bathroom properly - they are bald, toothless, chubby, defenseless little creatures. Perfect in the sense that they have great potential and innocence.
By the time man was created the angels had likely already reached their potential.
On the seventh day, when the creation was complete, God "rested." Not that God was tired or that he stopped working, it means he set aside a period of time in which we were allowed to mature, as the angels had done. When we would have accomplished this, we could, as the Bible says, enter into God's Day of rest. In other words, the seventh "day" or more accurately, period of creation, continues to this day. So, the knowledge of what is good and what is bad is the eventual possession of that maturity. The ability to decide for ourselves what was good and what was bad, predicated upon an acknowledgement of our own accord, of our creator, Jehovah's rightful sovereignty. (Psalm 95:11; Isaiah 40:28; John 5:17; Romans 8:22; Hebrews 4:1-5)
Once Adam rejected that concept by deciding for himself what was good and bad on his own before he had matured enough to best do that, Jehovah had to shorten his life from living forever to eventually dying. Apparently because if he and his offspring, mankind, were allowed to live forever under those conditions, they would never reach that maturity and they would bring about an endless series of chaos and destruction.
So, in effect, Satan charged Jehovah with the crime of withholding some knowledge from mankind. He knew this wasn't true, but he wanted to try and seize control of the power that Jehovah's sovereignty represented even if it meant destroying all that it represented and everything else in the process. Even destroying himself. Like a jealous child breaking a toy so no one else can have it.
But to Jehovah justice is very important. You can't just wave away a crime due to the damage that has been incurred. So, he allowed the charges against him to be tried, as in a court of law. He allowed Satan's theory to be tested in a manner of speaking. With the stipulation that 1. he wasn't going to allow it to prevent his original purpose for the angels and mankind from being fulfilled beyond what was necessary to establish his defense. That they should live forever in peace, in heaven and on earth respectively. And 2. that justice would be done.
That is why immediately after Adam's sin Jehovah put in motion the plan for all of this to take place while Satan's theory was being tested. In a basic sense the steps were as follows.
1. Select a group of people.
2. Form a nation for those people.
3. Demonstrate to them what was going on by establishing a law which they couldn't keep due to their imperfection, or the incomplete nature; their lack of the aforementioned maturity.
4. Provide a way out through a Messiah or Christ, namely, Michael, who volunteered due to his love for mankind and his father, Jehovah's purpose. So, Michael came to earth as a man, Jesus the Christ.
From Jehovah's perspective the life he created, the life he gave us, is sacred. Belonging to God. According to the Bible our soul is our life, represented by our blood, so blood is sacred. To kill someone, or take their soul, requires the payment of the killer's own soul because it is taking something sacred to Jehovah. The blood sacrifices represented a respect for or acknowledgement of his created life granted to us. For example, if a person was found murdered and no one knew who did the killing then they had to sacrifice a bull and spill its blood on the ground as a symbolic acknowledgement of God's possession. Sacred life. A sort of gesture of justice. (Deuteronomy 21:1-9)
Since we inherited sin through Adam then the only man who could pay the price for the blood of Adam, which had been perfect and without sin from the start until he did sin - was the blood of a man who was without sin.
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@Mall
The old testament has prophecies about Jesus Christ.
lets see them then.
The maker upper of the 2nd religion would of so ummm ,
Must of Study the " 1st " religion.
He would to of had to of been one.
Sooooo All he has to is ( cover the same " far fetched parts " and change the hue.
Long and short .
Making jesus king jew and ripping that big first chunk ont of a god book.
FUCKING SICK MOVE .
Its brilliant right.
Its up there with the muslims acknowledging jesus, sayin jesus is real but not that special.
Thats whats happening in the above.
YOU ( LATCH ON ) , AND YA GO FOR A FUCKEN RIDE
It aint as good as the bloke that said .
( hey , we should write that bitch in a scripture like format . )
Butttttt its good .
BRILLIANCE LIKE THAT HAS OTHERS kunts WORKING YA FIELLD.
And it HAS to be about that.
STRICT 4 PROFIT.
Boiling down to.
ITS ALL ABOUT SEX.
You haven't the correct blood to be like a king .
But you wanna live likd the fucking king .
Mmm. Mmm what can i do, ? What can i do. ?
I got it. Them holy guys look like they have it made .
No, no , no
We want better then that.
Wellll we should start the " thing " that the holly dudes abide to.
Are you saying we make a story ?
No , there are tons of story makers.
The fist bloke went to far and wanted to be the actual " god " thing.
What about . A person that actually knows a god.
Arrrrr . Kind of .
LONG shorty.
Christianity,
But we cant show our faces ,
so We need like a front man.
( Operation , trick jesus into believing his a god .)
Half way through this op, they switch things up a bit. Next thing you no , the bloke you tricked is staunch in the face of death.
Jesus knew he wasnt gonna be dead for long .
But he did .
Poor bloke .
The few beneficiaries just sit back and have people getting them " meals " every.
But they had to strike while the iorns hot.
Scratch of the head.
Did i mention that god takled to me .
No
Yep.
He also gave me a few " special messages " if you will .
No way
Yes way . ( yes way = god ) ha.
Show me , show me . These things ya got from god.
Nope.
Your so lucky mista , can then suck ya cock.
Sure.
Its somthing along these lines .
God talks to a guy .
And beford he zooms of ,he gives the guy a message or two.
L ron had like 4 REAL REAL special bits of paper with message from god , sorry i mean xon is it .
You know who i mean , the alien overlord dude.
They were Upwards of $200,000 if you wanted to see em .
And if you went a level 10 blackbelt scientific toligist.
Thats fucking handy right.
When a god pops up , you start crying in happiness.
You just no he is gonna leave you with like a gift basket. Of goodies like messages on all different types of meterials.
Please note
The stuff needed for these msg is all ( tax deductible work expenses )
SO KEEP YOUR DOCKETS .
The false fake religions are uncannily close to the real religion.
How can it happen .?
Abraham to L Ron
If your religion falls inbetween these.
False religions almost got it right.
Right?
And the fact that they continue to almost get it spot on.
But who cares whoppey doo..
You just believe in it for the rest of your intire life.
Well Admit that. ( They are Exactly the same buttttt only diffrent .)
Fucking say it.
Say it.
Well can you atleast.
Picture a fake Gucci bag comming out 1000 years before the fist ever Gucci bag.
No actually.
Picture a fake Gucci bag coming out 1000 years before hanbags wher invented.
Ya dont wanna bar of it.
THE MILKS SOUR.
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@RaymondSheen
Many of you on this site have shown to lack understanding of the scriptures though.
For something so simple, as the book teaches how can I tell you spiritual things and you don't get earthly things.
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@Stephen
Isaiah 9, Psalm 110, Psalm 22, Deuteronomy 18 on and on.
If you're really interested and sincere you'd do the research on your own and learn.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
1 book.1 religion.1 group.
we are all children of noah
so really
everyone is "the chosen people"
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@Mall
The old testament has prophecies about Jesus Christ.lets see them then.Isaiah 9, Psalm 110, Psalm 22, Deuteronomy 18 on and on.
Well, let us have the other "on and on's" so we can discuss and debate them. You never know, we might both learn something?
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@Stephen
Nah that's good. Scripture says out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, there's your three at least.
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@Mall
The old testament has prophecies about Jesus Christ.lets see them then.Isaiah 9, Psalm 110, Psalm 22, Deuteronomy 18 on and on.Well, let us have the other "on and on's" so we can discuss and debate them. You never know, we might both learn something?Nah that's good. Scripture says out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, there's your three at least.
Ok, I'll settle for the ones you have put forward that you have claimed are prophecies about the coming of Jesus the messiah called Christ.
Isaiah 9, Psalm 110, Psalm 22, Deuteronomy 18 on and on.
Nope nothing there concerning Jesus . And lets not forget, the messiah was never supposed to have died . He was supposed to have freed the Jews from the Roman yoke, FAIL. Inherited the throne of David, FAIL . Become king of the Jews, FAIL. And bring peace to all earth, FAIL and many other things that was expected of the messiah. In fact, a careful read of the New Testamant, and one can see that between John the Baptist and Jesus, it appears that John was more a Messiah like figure than Jesus ever was. But he was executed too, (Twice!!!) if the bible is to be believed.
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@Stephen
Did you actually expect the name Jesus to be mentioned?
That's not how it's going to be written comrade. See when you approach the scripture of all you get out of it get understanding, line upon line . Those scriptures prophesied in the old testament what would be in the new.
While I was putting in this text , Isaiah 53 came to mind. In Acts 8 of the new testament the Eunuch was asked about what he was reading about the prophet Isaiah prophesying about Jesus Christ.
So you're wrong about the old testament having nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ said himself all things must be fulfilled written in the law of Moses(old testament) and in the prophets (old testament) and in the psalms(old testament) concerning him.
Now not only you calling the old testament and the prophets a lie , are you going to call Jesus a liar?
When you approach these scriptures, you have to understand all this line upon line, here a little, there a little.
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@Stephen
lets see them then.
Here's some.
Description: Born of the tribe of Judah
Prophecy: Genesis 49:10
Fulfillment: Luke 3:23-33
Description: Born of a virgin
Prophecy: Isaiah 7:14
Fulfillment: Matthew 1:18-25
Description: Descended from King David
Prophecy: Isaiah 9:7
Fulfillment: Matthew 1:1, 6-17
Description: Declared Jehovah's Son
Prophecy: Psalm 2:7
Fulfillment: Matthew 3:17
Description: Not believed in
Prophecy: Isaiah 53:1
Fulfillment: John 12:37, 38
Description: Entered Jerusalem riding an ass
Prophecy: Zechariah 9:9
Fulfillment: Matthew 21:1-9
Description: Betrayed by a close associate
Prophecy: Psalm 41:9
Fulfillment: John 13:18, 21-30
Description: Betrayed for 30 silver pieces
Prophecy: Zechariah 11:12
Fulfillment: Matthew 26:14-16
Description: Silent before his accusers
Prophecy: Isaiah 53:7
Fulfillment: Matthew 27:11-14
Description: Lots cast for his garments
Prophecy: Psalm 22:18 Matthew 27:35
Fulfillment: Psalm 22:18 Matthew 27:35
Description: Reviled while on the stake
Prophecy: Psalm 22:7, 8
Fulfillment: Matthew 27:39-43
Description: None of his bones broken
Prophecy: Psalm 34:20
Fulfillment: John 19:33, 36
Description: Buried with the rich
Prophecy: Isaiah 53:9
Fulfillment: Matthew 27:57-60
Description: Raised before corruption
Prophecy: Psalm 16:10
Fulfillment: Acts 2:24, 27
Description: Exalted to God’s right hand
Prophecy: Psalm 110:1
Fulfillment: Acts 7:56
Description: Elevated and exalted
Prophecy: Isa. 52:13
Fulfillment: Acts 2:34-36; Phil. 2:8-11; 1 Pet. 3:22
Description: Babes killed after his birth
Prophecy: Jeremiah 31:15
Fulfillment: Matthew 2:16-18
Description: His commission from God
Prophecy: Isaiah 61:1, 2
Fulfillment: Luke 4:18-21
Description: Ministry caused people to see a great light
Prophecy: Isaiah 9:1, 2
Fulfillment: Matthew 4:13-16
Description: Zealous for Jehovah’s house
Prophecy: Psalm 69:9
Fulfillment: John 2:13-17
Description: One apostle unfaithful; betrays Jesus and is later replaced
Prophecy: Psalm 41:9; 109:8
Fulfillment: Acts 1:15-20
Description: False witnesses used against him
Prophecy: Psalm 27:12
Fulfillment: Matthew 26:59-61
Description: Lots cast for his garments
Prophecy: Psalm 22:18
Fulfillment: John 19:23, 24
Description: Numbered with sinners
Prophecy: Isaiah 53:12
Fulfillment: Matthew 27:38
Description: Reviled while dying
Prophecy: Psalm 22:7, 8
Fulfillment: Mark 15:29-32
Description: Given vinegar
Prophecy: Psalm 69:21
Fulfillment: Mark 15:23, 36
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@Stephen
And lets not forget, the messiah was never supposed to have died .
Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please?
He was supposed to have freed the Jews from the Roman yoke, FAIL.
No.
Inherited the throne of David, FAIL . Become king of the Jews, FAIL. And bring peace to all earth, FAIL and many other things that was expected of the messiah. In fact, a careful read of the New Testamant, and one can see that between John the Baptist and Jesus, it appears that John was more a Messiah like figure than Jesus ever was. But he was executed too, (Twice!!!) if the bible is to be believed.
Nonsense. First of all you have to explain what you mean, you have to give the prophecy and explain the interpretation. Your criticism are vague, like it's just propaganda you've stumbled across or you were once Christian and are judging the Bible by apostate ignorance.
So let's just start with the first one and go from there.
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@Mall
Did you actually expect the name Jesus to be mentioned?
😂 NO! And If you are correct in your claim that the OT prophesises about Jesus, then the name we should be looking for is Emmanuel.
So you're wrong about the old testament having nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
Nope.
Now not only you calling the old testament and the prophets a lie , are you going to call Jesus a liar?
I am calling you a bible dunce for not realising the obvious.
You haven't even tried to explain to us how those three examples ( Isaiah 9, Psalm 110, Psalm 22, Deuteronomy 18 )are supposed to refer to a man born some 800 years into the future?
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@Stephen
Nope nothing there concerning Jesus . And lets not forget, the messiah was never supposed to have died . He was supposed to have freed the Jews from the Roman yoke, FAIL. Inherited the throne of David, FAIL . Become king of the Jews, FAIL. And bring peace to all earth, FAIL and many other things that was expected of the messiah. In fact, a careful read of the New Testamant, and one can see that between John the Baptist and Jesus, it appears that John was more a Messiah like figure than Jesus ever was. But he was executed too, (Twice!!!) if the bible is to be believed.
well stated
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@RaymondSheen
Description: Not believed inProphecy: Isaiah 53:1Fulfillment: John 12:37, 38
i verified one unverifiable written statement from an old book
with another unverifiable written statement from an old book
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@3RU7AL
No. Isiaih was written about 732 BCE, John was written about 98 CE. Let's see that sort of accuracy in science.
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@RaymondSheen
The Dogon tribe in Africa is known for their knowledge of the Sirius star system, which includes a binary star as Sirius A and Sirius B.
i guess that proves they worship the one true creator of all things