Atheist only thread.

In the end of the day, my only real belief or sorta intuitive belief is that we will survive death

And why do you believe that? Is it because you really don't want to die? Where did all of the dinosaurs go when they died, the process that caused their existence ie evolution, is exactly the same process that caused our existence, so if we survive death then so does every creature that ever evolved on earth or anywhere else. We are all the same, perhaps the antelope believes in an afterlife of paradise, would that make it run faster or slower?

Do you have any tangible reason for that belief?

One of the main 'tangible' reason in my opinion is that i've had weird experiences. I can think of natural alternatives to explain them, but the natural explanations seem more far fetched than what i actually experienced. So, those opened my eyes up to experiences in general. So i've spent a lot of my life not only researching other peoples experiences but asking everyone i meet about if they've experienced anything bc i'm sorta obsessed with knowing i'm not the only one. It messes with your head bc if i was i would be worried about my mental state. But, at this point, i've ruled that out 1) bc my uncle is a neurologist and i've learned a lot about the mind and delusions; and 2) i'm not the only one. The way i look at it is out of the millions of people reporting experiences, only 1 of them has to be true for the implications to be wild. So, that is pretty crazy in and of itself. But i don't jump to conclusions. I don't know what could explain these. It could very well be something about consciousness that we aren't aware of and has very little to do with any afterlife or other dimension. So who knows what it means... but i'm quite confident they happen. So i think it is enough to suspect something is going on... one of those somethings is extra dimensions and higher consciousness. I believe we know too little at this point to rule these things out. 

Also some reasoning, i don't think we've even begun to test for an afterlife or other dimensions. The closest we come to studying it is in a theoretical type of way like multiverse stuff. Science currently doesn't have any means to test for this stuff. Science is best suited to discover our reality not any transcendent reality. Factor that it, that we really haven't even tried yet nor have the means too, i think it's close minded not to suspect these things especially given how incredibly unbelievable life is in general. We've only begun to scratch the surface of existence and we are already blown away by multiple unbelievable facts about life... i don't see why something like life after death just wouldn't be another unbelievable reality.   

My last reason is just personal. Ever since i can remember, quite literally from the age i can remember which is 4/5 and up, i've always felt like i was somewhere else before this life. Sorta like some young kids having past life memories, i felt like i had multiple experiences already. I remember as a kid imagining some pretty crazy stuff even before i've seen it and as soon as i was old enough to reason, i thought back and thought the things i've seen as a kid were impossible... and that's what initially got me interested in metaphysical subjects. Of course this one is really just a personal feeling and old memories... but they're significant to me nonetheless.   

I'll take that a 'No', then! :)

Well, of course but no offense that isn't a very good question. How can anything having to do with a belief be tangible? How can life after death be tangible? I guess if it is a soul thing, there should be a soul within our bodies but still that wouldn't necessarily be tangible. I mean, i took a loose definition of tangible and by that way spiritual experiences are the closest thing we have to tangible or as i took it 'can be perceived by our senses.'  But nothing can be specifically perceived by touch even if it were true. 

All of the platforms i think are the best aren't tangible. A simulation would be extra dimensional so nothing there. A pantheistic type of platform would be around us, but also extra dimensional. And it also wouldn't require a soul since when you die you just become one with everything again. Basically, they are all extra dimensional so there wouldn't be any tangible evidence.  

I suppose its conceivable that something very odd happens at the point of death, but nothing in my own experience implies it will!

That's most definitely true. Although, i hold all of these possibilities bc i've experienced weird stuff, so that's what makes me this rare agnostic atheist that believes more so in an afterlife than the latter. But like you said, i have no tangible evidence or proof so in the end of the day, who knows. You know... a lot of people say i believe in this bc i'm afraid of death; which isn't even close to being true. I'm in no rush, but i can't wait to see if i'm right or wrong. 

Of course, if you are wrong you won't know you're wrong! 

The electricity of a broken dynamo doesn't go anywhere - it ceases to be.

What's the difference between 'spiritual' and 'nice'?

I don't see how I could give you any answer a dictionary couldn't.

I don't trust dictionaries.  My guess is you didn't look up 'spiritual' before you started using it in sentences...I'm not bothered with what Dr Johnson or Mr Webster thinks 'spiritual' means - what do you mean when you say something is 'spiritual'?

Before going any further, I should address the animosity that many readers feel toward the term spiritual. When I use the word, as in referring to meditation as a "spiritual practice," I hear from fellow skeptics and atheists who think that I have committed a grievous error.

The word spirit comes from the Latin spiritus, which is a translation of the Greek pneuma, meaning "breath." Around the thirteenth century, the term became entangled with beliefs about immaterial souls, supernatural beings, ghosts, and so forth. It acquired other meanings as well: We speak of the spirit of a thing as its most essential principle or of certain volatile substances and liquors as spirits. Nevertheless, many nonbelievers now consider all things "spiritual" to be contaminated by medieval superstition.

I do not share their semantic concerns. Yes, to walk the aisles of any "spiritual" bookstore is to confront the yearning and credulity of our species by the yard, but there is no other term -- apart from the even more problematic mystical or the more restrictive contemplative -- with which to discuss the efforts people make, through meditation, psychedelics, or other means, to fully bring their minds into the present or to induce nonordinary states of consciousness. And no other word links this spectrum of experience to our ethical lives.

Throughout this book, I discuss certain classically spiritual phenomena, concepts, and practices in the context of our modern understanding of the human mind -- and I cannot do this while restricting myself to the terminology of ordinary experience. So I will use spiritual, mystical, contemplative, and transcendent without further apology. However, I will be precise in describing the experiences and methods that merit these terms.

Hey mon, get your butt in the Theist thread! no reason to be atheist towards religion in a strict sense, religion has legit insights because it is the study of that reality. Doesn't mean they have everything right, but remember there are countless societies that exist outside this one, and so many souls are connected with those realities. Since there are countless places for the soul to exist on many levels, there are countless places the soul can also collectively exist where it wishes, so some of the realities in religion that seem absurd to you...do in fact exist on some conscious level, just not your particular level or desire. 

A theist posted in the atheist only thread, but no atheist has posted in the atheist free thread. Wow.

I don't see how I could give you any answer a dictionary couldn't.

I don't know what would happen to say i prefer death. That is too sure of a statement. It could be something insanely cool. It could be the same ole stuff. It could be horrible... who knows. I just doubt it is insanely good bc if it was, why even be here. If i had to guess it's the same ole, boring, dull or maybe even hellish. That's where i would put my money. I wonder... why do you hate considering it as a possibility?