Choose Your Role DP3

Final thing before I go away. Put yourself in my shoes. My role expires at MYLO/LYLO.

Why are you saying this now? You had ample opportunity to say it yesterday but did not. Why? What’s the point in hiding the fact that you couldn’t use it at MyLO/LyLO

Why would I use a role that could send us to 3v2 or a 4v1. Versus one that sends us to a 6v1 or a 5v2. I played the role a lot more beneficially to town and if I were scum I would’ve saved it for this DP. Unless you think I’m actively shooting myself in the foot to try and gain town cred which at this point just take a hard look in the mirror.

Yes I know I probably rushed the vote and hammered too early. Looking back I honestly probably shouldn’t have done that. Tbh should’ve probably asked if I could just double vote at L-1 to spare any neg utility but tbh I was very confident in my savant read and maybe a bit too tunnel vision than I like to admit 

Or you’re scum.

Normally I agree. However the circumstances of this game made me quick hammer using the role. For 1. we could easily afford a lynch in this DP, 2. We had enough preliminary info to get a mislynch. WF going after Wylted when wylted was gun hoe on Savant 

Explain.

Pie literally came up with a 3rd of us both being town that you simply are not reading into. You are so dead locked and not thinking critically about any of the actions of the other that could have been beneficial.

I also said it doesn’t make sense

MyLO/LyLO

I said it for all the other roles that had vote manipulation and are you seriously going to play this game???? Have you ever made the politician role go thru MYLO/LYLO. That is just basic balancing

I said I hate making the balance argument in the first place, but it’s a possibility nevertheless. My main point is that I want to avoid the possibility because it explains why Earth hasn’t used his ability yet especially since he is lying that he didn’t scumread anyone yet he voted to lynch Earth.

I know it was never a guarantee. But the option was there. Anyways forget about the balance argument.  Who else are you entertaining as scum right now? 

Just forget about the balance argument. It’s conceivable that scum could have an extra kill, and Earth hasn’t exactly played in a townie way today.

Possible maybe, but not what I’d consider likely. As for whether Earth scumread someone yesterday, it’s clear that he had thoughts on it, and I’d have preferred that he shared them publicly as well as his role. The DP got cut short, but not so much that he couldn’t have done that. Still, I don’t see that as necessarily scummy. Why would he reveal that he’s the Day Vig now if that’s the case?

Why not just push attention to someone else, claim a night acting killing role, say he’ll use it this NP, and end the game at the start of the next DP with no one the wiser?

The point wasn’t that it’s not a guarantee. It’s that the balance argument actively runs contrary to your point. Giving scum a Killing role under the premise that GP was always going to pick Reviver is a weak claim for how the “balance” was supposed to be struck, and I don’t love how quick you are to walk it back, either.

I’ve said the three pairings I’m entertaining as scum. Earth is in one of those pairings. So are you. Casey and Vader are in two of them, so as of right now, they’re my top scumreads.

I don’t like how Earth has played, but if balance suggests anything, it suggests he’s town. His choice not to use his role reads as anti-town, not as scummy to me. It’s still possible that he’s scum, but as of now, he’s below you on likelihood for me. I’m still not sure who I’d prefer as the lynch between Casey and Vader, but one of them is my priority this DP.

I suggest we force him to shoot Supa today. If Supa is somehow magically town, we no lynch and go into LYLO tomorrow not worrying about this. If Supa is scum, then we go ahead and lynch Earth. I hate the balance analysis argument but it makes sense for the second kill cause GP can theoretically revive a townie.

Misfiring was a concern of mine. And my vote being gone is permanent even in MYLO/LYLO.

This is why poe with an earth day vig could really help as it would basically solve the game. I know it's a big risk but so is the reward.

There is no chance scum chose a non-confirmable role. No chance. 

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One more thought that’s been bothering me. Assuming the information Pie received is real, there’s very little likelihood that Earth is the Godfather. That would be a Passive role, so it wouldn’t support his Category claim at all (and couldn’t anyway if he had claimed Passive). Pie said scum were given a role to prove their Category and a role outside of the 9 Categories. So the explanation that he is the Godfather and that’s how he showed up as town when I Copped him doesn’t work, at least not if you believe that he has a Killing role.

There may be value in using it for the sake of reducing PoE, I just don’t like the way that Pie’s using it throw sus at Earth.

what if earth was scum and wanted to confirm yesterday with vig and the vote was too fast, so now he is trying to make it so he can't do it? Cause from what I understand they can only be one town role on any given day or no?

Still, I find it unlikely scum team got a day killing role or would choose to fake that, so Earth probs town