I think it's correct just to have Earth place his vote on Casey and shoot Vader, and then we decide from there.
Now you're just modifying what you said initially. The message said:
I said I'd prefer to shoot Casey, hence that whole "vice versa" in the parenthesis. I'd like to see Casey's flip before we decide the lynch, but right now, my default is to lynch Vader.
I don't see anything about limiting what can happen during a DP/NP cycle, and that information would have been super relevant since it would have hinted at the existence of a DP-use role on the scum team.
Any particular reason you prefer this order? I've taken to the opposite: shooting Casey and, depending on the flip, lynching Vader.
Then you misunderstood what I said initially. I said scum have 4 roles, 2 each. Each scum has a role in their category to prove it and then one role from the special category. If a member of the mafia has 2 active roles, they can only use one DP/NP cycle. For example, if Earth uses Vig right now, he cannot use his mafia active role tonight.
I mentioned it with the whole active/passive role. They can’t use a DP active role and NP active role. It’s one or the other.
What information does Casey’s flip give that Supa’s doesn’t and vice versa?
Dude, I quoted your initial post. I’ve done it several times. It makes no mention, nor does your clarification in DP1, of a DP/NP split. This is a brand new clarification in DP3, so don’t pretend that it’s always been there. Why did you leave it out of the information you gave in DP1?
I think Casey’s flip will be more informative and could alter our perceptions of what to do with the lynch. If they are the Mason Recruiter, then you’re confirmed town and we can be more confident in town support of Vader’s lynch. If Casey flips scum, then we can have a discussion over how you confirmed their role.
I’ll note that the only information we gain from shooting Vader first is whether he’s scum or not. We don’t learn anything that will help contextualize previous DPs since we already know Vader is the double voter. It tells us nothing about anyone else. Shooting Casey first is the right call because it lets us test their role and how it relates to Pie before we make a decision on who to lynch. Vader is not taken off the table by doing so.
Really not sure why WF is spinning a 5th gear over Vader getting shot...
If y'all think I'm scum so badly and Casey flips town when you shoot, town is essentially fucked. I always am under the pretense that getting rid of scum first is better than taking a gambit. I obviously am going to disagree with me getting shot because I am town anyway but it is going to be too hard to go post for post on this issue on why Earth should be the lynch
Now let’s say Austin’s fake category role involves a day action. Then he can’t use a mafia night action. Ask me more questions. It’s confusing as hell.So you’re wrong. I did say it. You just misinterpreted or missed it altogether.
Masons can recruit scum members. Thats why Casey is in the POE.
Test what as it relates to me?
My PoE remains unchanged. You're town, Pie is town, GP is town, Austin is town, and I know I'm town. That just leaves Earth and Vader. I think one of the two has to be a Godfather or a Lawyer. It fits with Luna's mod style, as I've already mentioned.
I’ll admit, I missed this scrolling through your posts on my phone. That’s my bad. I’ll take your point on this one, it is possible that Earth could have a daytime and night role, though I still think GF would stretch the wording you posted pretty far.
Not sure what this has to do with my point. If Casey is a scum or town mason, then their recruiting you is possible either way. My point was if we verified that Casey is not the mason, that could inform the lynch since you said you’re in a separate chat with him through the mason role, though I guess that doesn’t matter given Earth made his choice.
If y'all think I'm scum so badly and Casey flips town when you shoot, town is essentially fucked. I always am under the pretense that getting rid of scum first is better than taking a gambit. I obviously am going to disagree with me getting shot because I am town anyway but it is going to be too hard to go post for post on this issue on why Earth should be the lynch
Wym inform the lynch? I am in a separate chat with Casey, so I can confirm that Casey is telling the truth about being a Mason. The only questions is if they’re a scum Mason or town Mason. If Casey flips as scum Mason, it doesn’t tell you anything about me.
Again, my point was and remains that if Casey flips something that is not Mason, that’s when it matters.
Why does the order matter then. Shoot Casey or lynch Casey, you’ll still get the same information. Only difference is today or tomorrow. We have the time either way.
To me, it matters that it informs two lynches rather than just one, whereas shooting Vader will almost certainly have no chance of informing the lynch this DP. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it.
