The second coming of Christ (not Jesus)

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You said he wanted  to be a religious leader. So is it he wanted to be or is he considered that by those that are lacking in knowledge?
Jesus was fascinated by Judaism even as a child.
The Bible depicts Jesus, at the age of twelve, visiting the Temple in Jerusalem. He was found there, "listening to them and asking them questions" with the teachers. Jesus's parents were amazed by his understanding and answers, as were the teachers. This event is described in Luke 2:41-52.


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You're not answering the question which is not to be unexpected. You can't answer what I asked as there is no scripture saying Jesus wanted to be a religious leader.

Scripture teaches he wanted to do not his will but the will of the Father to be done .

As scripture say, by your words you are justified, by your words you are condemned.

Watch the wording as the ear try words(audible circumstances) as the mouth try meat.

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You're not answering the question which is not to be unexpected. You can't answer what I asked as there is no scripture saying Jesus wanted to be a religious leader.
Jesus was fascinated by Judaism even as a child.
The Bible depicts Jesus, at the age of twelve, visiting the Temple in Jerusalem. He was found there, "listening to them and asking them questions" with the teachers. Jesus's parents were amazed by his understanding and answers, as were the teachers. This event is described in Luke 2:41-52.

After Jesus had been baptized and was praying, the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down to Jesus in the form of a dove. A voice from heaven declared, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Now that he had been baptized, Jesus was able to begin his own ministry

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You ought to come on discord.
We can talk. Just discuss.

You heard my live discussions right, posted on YouTube.


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You ought to come on discord.
We can talk. Just discuss.

You heard my live discussions right, posted on YouTube.
thank you for the invitation.
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About as interesting as a potato is to a lion.
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About as interesting as a potato is to a lion.
You sure know how to turn them off.

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Do you believe Jesus the son of Mary is in heaven now according to the scripture?
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Do you believe Jesus the son of Mary is in heaven now according to the scripture?
Yes, the scriptures and Jesus says he is in heaven living in his fathers house.

John 14:2-3
2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am


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The son of Mary was flesh and blood. Is he flesh and blood in heaven right now?
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The son of Mary was flesh and blood. Is he flesh and blood in heaven right now?
The statement "flesh and blood cannot enter heaven" is a common interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50, which states that the perishable (flesh and blood) cannot inherit the imperishable (kingdom of God). This phrase highlights the concept of spiritual transformation and the need for a changed body to participate in the eternal life of God's kingdom.


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So to get it on record and do like the scripture say, yea or nay, is the son Jesus of Mary, flesh and blood in heaven now?
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Interesting. But people who do not live by the values of love and compassion have been around for millennia even since Jesus's coming, without being "sent to other primitive planets" to start over. So when did Cayce think it was going to happen? Or is Earth the primitive planet in question? Like Earth is Remedial Love and Compassion for Dummies?
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Interesting. But people who do not live by the values of love and compassion have been around for millennia even since Jesus's coming, without being "sent to other primitive planets" to start over. So when did Cayce think it was going to happen? Or is Earth the primitive planet in question? Like Earth is Remedial Love and Compassion for Dummies?
According to the contactees, the Earth is still a primitive planet. We are in a time of transitioning to the next level of our evolutionary journey (the apocalypse). Everything evolves, the planet as well as all the beings that are in it.

So the earth will no longer be a primitive planet, from what I heard starting from 2050 or so. The souls that can't make it will be sent to other planets that are at the primitive level, which means a planet isolated from the cosmic community.



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Like Earth is Remedial Love and Compassion for Dummies?
From what I can tell, the Earth is a difficult place to learn those things mainly because it's an experiment, meaning that the things that come about are unpredictable.

I'm not sure if you followed my old posts but I said that the aliens are looking for a species that evolves very quick and in order to get that they've put in the human design a lot of this trait we call ego, the religions call it "the devil", the opponent that we should defeat. The ego makes us evolve as species because the ego doesn't want us to suffer. The "love and compassion" that our souls have to foster is to control our egos, if we dont do that we end up killing each other. The ego is the reason why the human being suffers too much, but this is what we chose as souls, because for the soul evolving in a very short time is tremendously attractive.

Thanks for asking. 
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So to get it on record and do like the scripture say, yea or nay, is the son Jesus of Mary, flesh and blood in heaven now?
The Bible says Jesus ascended to heaven witnessed by many.

In Christian belief, the Ascension of Jesus is the event where Jesus, after his resurrection, ascends into heaven. This event is believed to have occurred on the 40th day after his resurrection. Christian doctrine holds that Jesus was then exalted as Lord and Christ, seated at the right hand of God.




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I've avoided this string so far because, frankly, I think Cayce was just another quack, and the video IlDiavolo put up to start this string implies we have to wait for a second coming to see its results. I think the results of a second coming of Christ are best prepared for by acting as if it's already happened. And the whole discussion on how Jesus appears - physical or spirit, was answered at his resurrection. He reesurrected as a perfected [therefore, not corrupt] physical being, and proved it to all who saw him. What? - on  ascension, he drifted back to spirit, when we're told, elsewhere, "in the flesh we ahall see God." I don'r recall where that is found [I think Job], but it does not matter. I'm not here to prove anything at present, just to suggest. Sanctified, perfected flesh is how Jesus exists now, in heaven, with a previously sanctified, and perfected Heavenly Father before him. And the idea that we must reincarnate  [become flesh, again, multiple times to finally "get it"  - i.e., underhand what it's all about. to become a sanctified, perfect being] is, to me, nonsense. Christ told us to become as little children, because they already get it - it's so simple, we tend, as adults, to over-think it and make it complicated. One time around in mortal life is sufficient for "little children," just like a roller coaster and its ups and down and turned, and even corkscrews. Hey, animals seem to get once around, so it must be that we are guilty of over-thunking. [spelled on purpose]

Now, that said, I heard something today that may offend Catholics, but I mean no disrespect whatsoever, but it is funny as ever I've heard. One of the Cardinals who is thought to be a possible choice to be the next Pontiff is Cardinal Pizzaballa. Say that with an Italian accent. I roared with laughter, and I'm certain he probably thinks it's funny, too. His name is what it is. I wish him well, and he's instantly my favorite.

ok, back to the second coming, and how many times we allegedly go through this life, and... and...  he did it just once. Aren't we supposed to follow...? 
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What religion do you follow? 
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I've mentioned in a string begun by Sir.Lancelot, I think. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
So, you're a mormon.

I noticed Mormonism has some similarities to Cayce's hypothesis and the new age movement. The idea that we are "children" of God that need to PROGRESS (see the word is similar to evolve) and BECOME MORE LIKE HIM (in other words become Gods). I took that from Wikipedia. 

At least you don't believe in hell as a real place. Right?
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Well, Hell is...   no, I don't buy Dante's version of it. I don't think Hell is  is fire and brimstone of eternal flame and all the people are damned to an existence of charcoal. No, it is far worse. The Garden, for all its assumed delights of innocence and harmony and peaceful skies and rivers and lakes of fresh, clear water, and every animal lives in peace with the others is, in other words… heaven?
No, the Garden, Eden, is like standing outside the shop window on all the delights we want right now, but there is no door. We smudge the glass with our greasy hands, and our oily noses press to the glass, fogging it with foul breath, as we covet what is beyond the glass in the display, meant to be as tempting to us as was the seedless fruit of the Tree of Knowledge in Eden for Adam and Eve, but our pockets are empty of means of payment, and our minds are just as void of the knowledge, unless we seek it - and, no, there is no door - and that is just in the next block down the street, delights of the spirit are presented without forbidding glass, had for the value of a sincere heart and a hungry mind for excellence of knowledge gained for a better purpose than merely fulfilling our wants; and no need of a door. “Living bread,” it was called, long after Eden; bread for eternal principles of faith, hope and charity.
No. The Garden was innocent, but it was also void of progress. Nothing happened there other than Satan’s ruse; otherwise, it was stasis. It was meant to be lived once, only by two people, and maybe two of every kind such as Noah brought to the ark, and fruit of every kind to be savored for eternity, but then Adam and Eve blew it all to hell, maybe, but it was really just to our now jaded here-and-now Earth. Some may think this is hell, because Satan seems to rule here, as well, but not for long. And then… So, Hell to us is just a dark place where there is no advance of knowledge, and no door, so, no escape. No gargoyles, no foul-mouth dripping saliva, and no teeth, no dragons, no nothing but defeated souls for whom Satan has any responsibility. HNe does'r want it, doesn't need it, and is defeated, himself.
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