Call of Duty: Black Ops Mafia DP1

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But the big thing I noticed in this game is that there aren’t a lot of noobs, and since “noob mislynches” are kind of the common scum strategy I was interested to see who would push one of either banana or moozer. Not that I think they are noobs still but that people might look at them as being the easier types to mislynch. ATM I do town read banana and while I don’t neccesarily town read moozer I think the argument for cussing him is pretty weak especially when moozers gameplay has been consistently the same in the past.
I kind of get where you're coming from, Moozer does feel like he tends to be an easy mislynch target for scum as town. I think the last game he was in is a good example of that, not to mention Classic Movies Mafia. That game was unforgettable, for all the wrong reasons, though I mostly blame myself. (I know you said you though it was balanced Luna but it was NOT lmao).

That being said, I can't really say Moozer has done anything in particular to make me townread him yet, though I suppose the same is true of most players so far. I did ask my question to try and get some activity and judge people's responses, and then didn't really follow up on it because I've been busy with other things this weekend, oops. I will say that Moozer's response didn't feel very insightful to me, but I liked Banana's response. Whiteflame is hard for me to read as his behavior doesn't change much as either alignment. He's still firmly in my Null camp for now. Mharman feels good to me so far - at first he was low activity, but once he actually jumped in, he started feeling a lot better to me. The way he hinted at his thoughts on other players as a way to try and generate reactions reminds me of his usual town play, and not at all like his scum play in Inheritance Cycle, where his play honestly felt very lazy to me overall. I'm a little embarrassed I didn't peg him as scum sooner in that one.

I may have been a bit too quick to townread Bullish. I'm not sure how serious he was about having a FoS on the players that didn't townread him, but that feels kinda weird to me. Wylted hasn't given me too much to work with yet, but he feels good so far (just vibes). Luna is a slight town lean for posting a bunch of his somewhat disconnected thoughts. I don't think I've ever seen him do that as scum before - as mafia, he tends to be somewhat more reserved and lets things play out (when not faking results, that is). All the times I can think of him being more active in driving discussion, especially during DP1, he's been town.

These are just my immediate thoughts off the top of my head as I write them down on my phone, I'll revisit them later. 
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I wanna pressure whiteflame I think.

VTL whiteflame
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Mharman (1/5) - Casey
Whiteflame (1/5) - Lunatic


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Honestly, it surprises me too that I haven’t been targeted yet. The experienced players should know that I’m an easy mislynch, which maybe leads to the conclusion that scum team is less experienced.

Then again, there’s a lot of experienced players in this game so it would be hard to find someone who fits the bill of not being a noob but not being to veteran.

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DART games are very role heavy, why wouldn't mafia be leaning on them?  Usually they power role hunt
Are you all about behaviour over roles? sus
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Honestly, it surprises me too that I haven’t been targeted yet. The experienced players should know that I’m an easy mislynch, which maybe leads to the conclusion that scum team is less experienced.
Or, maybe they want to avoid being scumread by just following the path of least resistance. Or they're just binding their time and not pushing aggressively just yet. All this is assuming you're town, of course.

Out of curiosity, assuming the scum team really is relatively inexperienced compared to other players in the game, who would that point to for you?
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Are you all about behaviour over roles? sus 
Why is that sus to you? That's the opposite of sus imo. Behavior is king in this game. Behavior can catch scum even when mechanics don't. It's part of my design philosophy - mechanics should help the town, but they should never be the end all, be all. You have to learn how to actually scum hunt if you want to win as town.
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Wylted and mharman are big town. 

Personally I want to see moozer make it to lylo.
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I mean I know lunatic is all about behaviour over roles, that's why it's sus for him to be so concerned about roles this game.
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I mean I know lunatic is all about behaviour over roles, that's why it's sus for him to be so concerned about roles this game.
I am pushing behavior over roles, which is my whole point in saying we should be pushing for soft claims for no reason. It only benefits scum not town. 
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Attention:

Casey has asked to be replaced. Cerulean has graciously accepted to act as the replacement.
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Greetings. 
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Seems my break was short-lived. Ah well, I did sign up for being a substitute.

I'll be taking a read through everything right now. Haven't played these games, so I'm afraid I won't be much help with theme analysis.
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Moozer is the top Villager read from Page 1. Don't think WF/Lunatic is paired based on their interaction about softing.

I'm going to ping some of our low posters in particular here - what do you think about my question in #55?
Do you think scum would be more likely to push for or against softclaims in this case? 
Is it weird to answer a question that my own "slot" asked? It's tough to say for sure, but I think scum would want more softclaims rather than less. Considering that there don't seem to be a lot of "important" characters, the space that scum has for fake claiming might be pretty tight, so getting a gist of what everyone else has would be fairly important for them.

There are probably ways of doing it that are tougher for wolves to fake their way through, though. I might take a closer look and see if there's a good way to soft without giving too much away after I finish catching up.
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What if we just dont do any discussion and just lynch somebody
This. Is null from Bullish. Isn't it.
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I don't care. I think ideally we are all vanilla and so is mafia. We shouldn't be leaning on roles.
If you're a fan of Mountainous, I have a website to send you to. The Mafia Universe yearns for the Mountainous.

I notice when Wylted is town he usually just says shit to see if he can get a reaction out of people and his page 1 feels no different.
And he doesn't do this as Mafia?

Anyways the chances that scum are exactly the two people that most might consider “nooby” or easily to manipulate (banana and moozer) seems low enough to me that I’m willing to almost confidently bet that scum is likely going to be one of the many vets in this game. I’m not town passing those two completely just speaking from probablility and mod psyche mostly that I feel
Like scum is gonna be a deadly pick this time.
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here. That the team isn't exactly Banana/Moozer? Based solely on mod psyche/probability? I agree that you're probably correct, but it's a lot of words to say something so simple.

I wanna pressure whiteflame I think.

VTL whiteflame
This is a mindmeld, I was feeling a little uneasy about WF for uncertain reasons. Something about the soft claiming felt off in a way I can't describe, which is unfair to WF, I know. That being said, the gut is right sometimes... I think I'll shelve that for now, though. See how WF proceeds.

(I know you said you though it was balanced Luna but it was NOT lmao).
My own slot, degrading one of my two wins on this website... how depressing. Woe is me.


Maybe I start here for now- VTL Bullish. See how this feels.
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Official Vote Count:

Bullish (1/5) -Cerulean
Whiteflame (1/5) - Lunatic


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If enough people want my claim, I’ll give it, even if the basis for pursuing it is, as both of you have admitted, relatively weak. Haven’t been pushed early in a while and I’ve been more passive this game for the most part beyond my efforts towards a softclaim. If that plus my thoughts on Moozer are reason enough for at least a couple of people to sus me (I know Cerulean hasn’t voted me yet, but he’s flagged me, hence the tag), I’ll accept it and claim.
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Don't vote me pls
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We don't need basis to push anyone. 

And yes I know what I just said.
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. Or they're just binding their time
I am pretty sure it's biding their time asshole. Normally this wouldn't offend me but AI am pretty sure this wasn't caused by autocorrect
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I can help push whiteflame since a few people ne ruined gut and that's the only way to catch him early. 

VTL whiteflame
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Forgot to tag you
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Don't vote me pls
Then give me a good reason not to. You're a tough slot to pin down as Town or Scum, as far as I'm aware.
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Fuck it.

I’m Sergei Kozin. I’m known as the Monster of Magadan, my strength was essential to bolster Mason in particular to escape a labor camp and return to the US during the Vorkuta uprising. I’m the Strengthener.
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It may be a good thing you claimed. Give me a minute to confirm

Unvote
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Alright.
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I might as well answer Casey's last question and I'm tagging you cause why not. I honestly don't see a person who fits that description so I'll abandon that line of thinking.

Honestly, I'm getting a scum vibe from Bullish. He's being a little too loose and silly than normal, and If I remember right he usually takes this more seriously. My bet is he's trying to fly under the radar by making unassuming and part-fluff, part-troll, part-comedic posts. That's just vibes though, this could change easily.
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I might as well answer Casey's last question and I'm tagging you cause why not. I honestly don't see a person who fits that description so I'll abandon that line of thinking.

Honestly, I'm getting a scum vibe from Bullish. He's being a little too loose and silly than normal, and If I remember right he usually takes this more seriously. My bet is he's trying to fly under the radar by making unassuming and part-fluff, part-troll, part-comedic posts. That's just vibes though, this could change easily.
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Nevermind