Why would mafias ability to have an extra night kill be affected by their knowledge of another plays hidden ability?
It's possible the two pieces of information I got aren't related; I simply theorized that they were. My theory is that interacting with a certain player in a certain way (most likely a NK) grants an extra kill, via whatever is hidden about their role. It's based on mod psyche as well, because I'm predicting all three pieces of information I can get are related (yes, I did talk with Pie- he confirmed I don't gain anything NP4+... somewhat obvious but it was worth asking).
I think it's totally possible that could be a reason, there could be a plethora of reasons, you just happened to use that as an example, being overly defensive like that could suggest that is the actual answer. Either way there could be a different one too, but seeing as you had the luxury of being able to claim when you want, last, and under no pressure, I have every reason to believe you prepared the fake claim last second, as if waiting to build your claim around what everyone else claimed. The behavior in question is about responses to cerulean that occured before you divulged the information about your night 1 action, you could tailor that information however you wanted based on ceruleans claim and responses to your role.
1. Last DP I had told everyone else could claim after Cerulean and I. I would've been willing to go first if it weren't for the fact that I wanted more to read Cerulean off of, as well as the off chance he claims my character or someone else's. The only reason I was the last person to full claim is because no one listened to me.
2. Even before Cerulean full claimed, I did hint at my information before Cerulean full claimed.
3. Go ahead, list another reason for your theorized scum Mharman to hold off on information like that. I was refuting what I felt was the likely argument coming from you. I'm decent at the game, I'm not going to draw an extra sus by withholding information like that as scum. I'd have it up front and ready to go.
This reads like a threat "If you keep on this route of suspecting me I might turn this around on you. so watch yourself". Why would you be threatening me with a read, you either do or you don't scum read me. It's convenient that the reads suddenly strengthens when I start asking you some light questions. You are getting very defensive :)
Once again, I will defend myself from mislynches lol.
As for your perceived threat, no. I just said I was becoming more willing to bet that you don't know what's going on, as opposed to the idea that you were pretending to so. Yes, I will continue to have some level of sus on you as long as you are in my POE (Earth Cerulean Banana), but it's not at the level of what I have on Earth.
"It seems you have your mind made up, which is strange you aren't considering much of mharman but whatever." -Banana to Whiteflame
But since we're having a discussion about threats, could I reasonably consider this a threat? A "start sussing Mharman or I start to sus you" kind of thing? Rhetorical question btw
There's been a lot of discussions about most or a lot of these roles having shaky justifications. Im not too familiar with this game to really dig deep into that stuff anyway. Right now I am more focused on people's behavior.
You can focus on both lol
They have no reason to hit outside of those targets.
First things first, you are the only player in this game who had not revealed their role while claiming an active role.
They have plenty of reason to hit outside those targets.
1. Again, the threat of a doctor being one. If your saying those three targets are "obvious" wouldn't scum want to try and hit outside of the group of people most likely to prevent their kill?
If anything the notion of a doctor encourages scum to try to find and target the doctor. AKA someone with an active role. AKA not me.
2. There was three unclaimed individuals, me you and cerulean. Just because I claimed an active role didn't neccesarily mean my role was a threat to them. Also you could have been lying about being a passive role, and secretly BEEN the doctor. Same with cerulean. Unclaimed townies seem like a pretty big threat. Look at the role you have. If your role is true it could be a huge negative for mafia, they have no reason to assume your role isn't a threat because you claimed it was passive.
Sure passive roles can be threatening, but active ones are usually more threatening. A passive role could be negative utility, or a weaker investigative/protective, like oracle or bulletproof, or even something like commuter. A passive role could be negative utility for town, at which point it's valuable to keep them alive. Passive roles can also be a major landmine for scum.
Meanwhile active roles are your doctors, your cops, your tracker/watchers, strengtheners, confirmables, masonizers, even vigilantes (although vigilantes almost never exist in 9-player games). Especially late in the game, they can cause havoc to a scum team if they don't spend time dealing with them.
To suggest that you KNEW you weren't a viable target enough to risk allowing game changing information to not be revealed, also suggests you have inside information, and knew you wouldn't be targeted, as if you were the one with the ability to direct the night kill...
Or I just had the game sense to shoot for more information with my role, while understanding that with the way mafia teams tend to think, I wasn't their likely NK.
