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@Shila
It happened almost 2000 years after the Jews rejected Jesus and the gospels. The crusades also happened, a lot earlier.
Non-Orthodox Jews cannot find a good reason to oppose converting to Christianity.
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@rosends
Then you don't understand the concepts of god being used.
Yes I really do. Allah of Islam isnt Yhwh.
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@Shila
What you said is disgusting and untrue.
They may even be saved via pld Covenant and Father's judgement. Son may have forgiven them for rejecting him, given their circumstances and adherence to Tanakh. We cannot know.
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@AdaptableRatman
Yes I really do. Allah of Islam isnt Yhwh.
In its idea, it is. In its actions, it isn't. This is pretty basic stuff.
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@rosends
No. In its idea, it is not.
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@AdaptableRatman
I'm not sure on what basis you are claiming that. In their natures, the god ideas in Judaism and Islam are the same unless you can show me how they are not. Your claim was that the god of Islam "He is pure evil and loathes Jews." But those are not elements of the God idea, just actions of the god character.
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@rosends
Allah enslaves all and is notnpitted against evil whatsover. The only fully valid language to worship him in and receive his impurified teachings is Arabic and all are said to be his slaves.
To avoid being accused legally of spreading either islamophobia or ironically of spreading extremist Islam I shall give you some links and you tell me if this is the same God concept.
This is tip of the iceberg.
Ill justify more later, must be careful how I write it.
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@AdaptableRatman
None of those comments on the idea of the god head so nothing in there contradicts my claim.
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@rosends
I am not conceding this, just uninterested in continuing.
You are wrong but I am aware most of the modern world thinks multiple religions worship the same god.
It is a lie. I am done debating ty.
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@rosends
It happened almost 2000 years after the Jews rejected Jesus and the gospels. The crusades also happened, a lot earlier.
So you accept the Holocaust happened 2000 years after the Jews rejected Jesus and the Gospels.
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@Shila
Approximately, sure.
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@rosends
So you accept the Holocaust happened 2000 years after the Jews rejected Jesus and the Gospels.
Approximately, sure.
Would you have preferred the Holocaust happened sooner?
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@whiteflame
Already reported 2 of her posts but if you back a page to Shila's post and see this page she is directly being a Holocaust apologist towards a Jewish member.
So is Wylted towards Whiteflame when he claims WF asked him to have a Hitler pfp but WF seems too afraid to stick up for his people and yes I say that personally. If I were in WF's position Wylted would be perma'd. 0 hesitation.
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@Shila
Would you have preferred the Holocaust happened sooner?
I would have preferred that it didn't happen at all. Why do you ask?
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@AdaptableRatman
So is Wylted towards Whiteflame when he claims WF asked him to have a Hitler pfp but WF seems too afraid to stick up for his people and yes I say that personally. If I were in WF's position Wylted would be perma'd. 0 hesitation.
Contrary to your opinion on the matter, rising to every instance of someone saying something negative about Jews, the Holocaust, or posting a picture of Hitler is not necessary to ensure that “my people” are stuck up for. We’ve dealt with far worse.
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@rosends
Would you have preferred the Holocaust happened sooner?I would have preferred that it didn't happen at all. Why do you ask?
If the Holocaust happened sooner less Jews would have died. Just like there are 14 million Jews today a lot more Jesus deniers than before.
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@Shila
I have no idea what you are getting at.
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@whiteflame
You are chief moderator on a site that lets an open white supremacist operate and have Hitler pfp and defame you saying you insisted on it.
It is a complete and utter deep betrayal to your heritage to let him do that. No, I do not take it back.
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@rosends
I have no idea what you are getting at.
Denying Jesus has come at a cost to the Jews.
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@AdaptableRatman
You are Chief moderator on a site that lets an open white suoremacist operate and have Hitler pfp and defame you saying you insisted on it.It is a complete and utter deep betrayal to your heritage to let him do that. No, I do not take it back.
I'm not expecting you to take your perspective back and I don't know where you're getting that.
I've already responded to WyIted saying that I insisted on the Hitler pfp, but no, I'm not going to ban him or delete his messages just because he's trolling me over it.
I will, however, argue that it is not a "betrayal of [my] heritage" to let people post as they have. I just fundamentally don't agree that it affects my heritage at all.
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@whiteflame
I admit I am being implicitly discriminatory to say it is worse for you to do it.
I shall word it this way:
If we were a business and you were one of the execs, it would be natural for you to complain a lot faster about a fellow employee wearing or displaying pro Hitler stuff than non-Jewish, non-lgbtq clothing. That is not racist to say it is an observation of correlation between who is most hurt reacting fastest most often.
If you were black I would expect his N word uses and vile comments about the race in that debate and elsewhere to affect you more instantly to a severe level.
That does not mean I say it shouldn't result in the same punishment otherwise.
You called him your friend. I am obviously not due to both you cutting comms and us never truly bonding for long.
Your friend, a person you like and respect and who claims to like and respect you back has a Hitler pfp and says you insisted on it. If he respects you more for taking that lying down, whimpering than you clamping down on it full force and fast as chief moderator then he is not your real friend at all.
You can twist this any way at all you want. I can guess what your relatives or irl friends will think knowing you are a leader here and turn a blind eye to all that.
That does not mean I think being a meek conformist to families is always good. I do think you know I am right here.
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@Shila
And why do you think that anything that happened to Jews is related to denying Jesus? What if a Muslim were to tell you that Pearl Harbor happened because Christians denied Mohammed?
That wouldn't make much sense. Some issue here. The link you are trying to make is illogical and has no basis in reality.
than non-Jewish, non-lgbtq clothing
Execs not clothing. Though it may still be untrue who complains first.
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@AdaptableRatman
RM, I’m not going to continue arguing this with you. I’m not twisting anything, just stating my perspective in response to yours. If you find posts and profile pics like this repulsive, so be it, I’d just prefer you don’t treat this as me betraying my own ancestors.
As for my response, I’ve already told WyIted that he’s incorrect. If that’s not enough for you, so be it. I don’t feel the need to enforce anything as moderator to demonstrate it.
If you want to change site policy to prevent someone from posting a picture like this as their pfp, advocate for it. We don’t have a lot of existing policy on profile pictures. We have in the past restricted some offensive use of pictures or text that took it too far, but this would be markedly distinct from previous enforcement on our part. We could honestly stand to have some clearer policy on what’s allowed in profiles and opening that up to public discussion would be something I’d support.
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@whiteflame
He has post contents breaking your rules on racism.
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@whiteflame
I am willing to post to such a thread if it is made, I can show you how EU laws discuss hate content legally.
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@AdaptableRatman
He has post contents breaking your rules on racism.
Be specific. Which rules has he violated and where? He has received a warning about his use of the N-word.
I am willing to post to such a thread if it is made, I can show you how EU laws discuss hate content legally.
You can make the point however you wish.