This is what needs to happen to 21st century communists

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The current definition of communism is:

"a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. "

Well, if communists subscribe to this ideology, then how about the state tells them where they can sleep and you work them to their fullest ability (irrespective of their desire to actually complete the work).  Basically, they become a slave to the state (which is what their ideology calls for the rest of us), so they should walk their talk until they stop talking their current talk and talk the correct talk (capitalism).

I want abortion banned for all anti abortion women and I want communism for all communists.  These statements shouldn't be contraversal.
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Create a SQL database with every woman in the United States

Then include every single variation of the pro life and pro choice arguments into the SQL to properly label every single woman.

Next have every single woman in the country update their views daily since their views actually depend on their mood. 

Now you have to check the database when a woman walks into an abortion clinic 

Sorry mam but it says you can't get an abortion after 3 months and 5 days due to your beliefs. Had you come 5 minutes earlier you would be okay.

Then again she can go home and update her beliefs with the government who is now tracking every woman and their views on abortion. (Which would obviously never be abused to round up those with wrong think). 

Maybe there is a cut off on when a woman is allowed to change her mind? Does the cut off have to be prior to pregnancy? If so now we need government mandated pregnancy tests for women Everytime they update their opinion with the government. 

Creating a database of commies is even harder because technically only commies would be evil enough to create a database of wrong thinkers. So now you need to hire commies to create a database of commies that will be used to enslave commies this could create a perverse value incentive for those creating the database.
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@RemyBrown
Well, if communists subscribe to this ideology, then how about the state tells them where they can sleep and you work them to their fullest ability (irrespective of their desire to actually complete the work).  Basically, they become a slave to the state (which is what their ideology calls for the rest of us), so they should walk their talk
Thats what Communism is. Being a slave to the state.
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I want abortion banned for all anti abortion women and I want communism for all communists.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to who these communists you speak of are.
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Perhaps you can enlighten us as to who these communists you speak of are.
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Wylted living up to his profile pic and RemyBrown living up to... Never mind.
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Name 1 good Communist country then.

Communism as most Communists imagine it is basically just another North Korea.

If your theory starts with "government will fix this by...", then its probably another failure idea in the making.
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Wdym?
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Surely if you are prolife, you would want all to have the same abortion limits.

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I couldn't possibly be more libertarian on the issue of abortion; I think abortion should be a pay for it yourself and legal federally for the whole 9 months.

The reason why is I aim for consistency; if you can't force a dude to endure a vasectomy for a few days of pain to prevent the death of an unborn kid, then you can't force the woman to endure even a few days of unwanted pain for the same cause.

Because of that, I think abortion should be federally legal for the whole 9 months; but I also don't like hypocrisy.  Women should be allowed to get abortions under any conditions they would allow others to get them.
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Then by logic of your OP here, you are saying you would see it as right to be aborted for your vote.

That is not a threat, it is a hint at the major issue of your logic.
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Then by logic of your OP here, you are saying you would see it as right to be aborted for your vote.
How so?  

I'm born, I'm not a threat to anyone's body anymore.  I'm different than a fetus.
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Is it your right to be born?
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You say you are born and can be prochoice so extremely.

Then I ask you, the system is capitalist so why force a communist to be communist inside the capitalist system?

The analogy is linked to logic that you say meaning you wod need to be aborted to be prochoice (again, not a threat, an analysis of a logical flaw in your thinking.
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'm born, I'm not a threat to anyone's body anymore.  I'm different than a fetus.
Only in that you are outside of the womb than inside of it.
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Is it your right to be born?
Yes because it already happened.

Then I ask you, the system is capitalist so why force a communist to be communist inside the capitalist system?
Because it's what the communist wants.

The analogy is linked to logic that you say meaning you wod need to be aborted to be prochoice (again, not a threat, an analysis of a logical flaw in your thinking.
An aborted fetus that complains about abortion being banned is a hypocrite.  But fetuses don't complain about anything.
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The logic you use to say that a Communist has to be live as a  Communist inside Capitalism, is akin to saying a born person who is very prochoice has to have been aborted.

If you do not see the parallel at all, you are lacking in lateral thinking skills.
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The logic you use to say that a Communist has to be live as a  Communist inside Capitalism, is akin to saying a born person who is very prochoice has to have been aborted.
I sort of see your logic, but I could make some tweaks:

The logic you use to say that a Communist has to be live as a  Communist inside Capitalism, is akin to saying an unborn person who is very prochoice has to have been aborted.
The born person with abortion would be more akin to the retired person with the economy.  People don't say the born should get killed or the elderly should have to work.
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No.

The only way a born person who is very prochoice can say they had the right to be born and protected as a foetus and then baby and onwards is if they say the circumstances of 'luck', God's will or 'fate' led them there.

They inherently have a double standard where they barely ever would be willing to have been slaughtered as a foetus yet vote for it to be done to members of the identical species they are and deny it is murder.

This is directly akin to saying that the circumstances of the communist letting them live out life as an at least partial capitalist are down to 'luck', God's will or fate enabling the hypocrisy.
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People don't say the born should get killed
Yes they do, for farm animals and insects especially.
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Controversial indeed Remy

And what does I want abortion banned for all anti-abortion women, actually mean?



And for sure, communism is not species compatible.

Because although people might be basically the same in form, they certainly do not share equality of brain power.

As some people aptly demonstrate.

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The only way a born person who is very prochoice can say they had the right to be born and protected as a foetus and then baby and onwards is if they say the circumstances of 'luck', God's will or 'fate' led them there.

That is correct.  I got lucky.  I made it this far, therefore I deserve to be alive.  Luck matters with how you deserve to be treated.

A smart person may study the same amount as a stupid person, they take a test, smart person gets a 100; stupid person gets a 70.  They put in the same effort, but the smart person deserves to succeed because luck privilege exists (and that's good).

They inherently have a double standard where they barely ever would be willing to have been slaughtered as a foetus yet vote for it to be done to members of the identical species they are and deny it is murder.
If I was aborted as a fetus, then I wouldn't care.  But I'm out of the womb now, so it's different.  Just like if I was 8, then I wouldn't mind running around a lot recklessly; but I'm much older than that, so it's not my drip anymore.

Yes they do, for farm animals and insects especially.
No shit sherlock, a human is worth more than a chicken.
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And what does I want abortion banned for all anti-abortion women, actually mean?
It means I would make female hypocrisy on abortion illegal.  Don't get an abortion under conditions that you would ban it for others if you had power.
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That is correct.  I got lucky.  I made it this far, therefore I deserve to be alive.  Luck matters with how you deserve to be treated.

A smart person may study the same amount as a stupid person, they take a test, smart person gets a 100; stupid person gets a 70.  They put in the same effort, but the smart person deserves to succeed because luck privilege exists (and that's good).
Luck is partly an illusion. God tests us in his eyes fairly but in a complex way. He makes some underprivileged and tests the privileged in how well they sacrifice for the underprivileged and take care of them.

If you don't see God's design, it is your flaw not mine.
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If I was aborted as a fetus, then I wouldn't care.  But I'm out of the womb now, so it's different.  Just like if I was 8, then I wouldn't mind running around a lot recklessly; but I'm much older than that, so it's not my drip anymore.
What a nonsense analogy. Being dead is unidentical to running around and parents or non-parent guardians are responsible for safekeeping a fetal human just as they are a kid/child human.

If you do the crjme of murder to a 1 year old or an adult, cgold murder is seen as even worse by society. Fetal murder is one of the worst crimes.
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a human is worth more than a chicken.
Then why is a fetal human treated identically if the mother says okay to slaughter that human?
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Abortion was just introduced to reduce birth rates, and now defects too. It has no actual arguments to defend it. Fetus being a "threat" to woman's body is not a reason to kill fetus, as that then is a much greater threat to fetus's body. Simply, once you consider unborn a person, which it is, abortion reduces number of persons. One cannot very successfully defend the idea that its okay to reduce number of persons.
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The Holy Spirit likely was within you when writing what you just wrote on abortion. 🫡

Wise words.
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The Holy Spirit likely was within you when writing what you just wrote on abortion. 🫡

Wise words.
Thanks.
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He makes some underprivileged and tests the privileged in how well they sacrifice for the underprivileged and take care of them.
Privileged = right wing group.  It has nothing to do with poverty.

If you do the crjme of murder to a 1 year old or an adult, cgold murder is seen as even worse by society. Fetal murder is one of the worst crimes.
1 year olds are not in a woman's body.


 Then why is a fetal human treated identically if the mother says okay to slaughter that human?
Mainly because I'm wanting to be consistent.  If you can't force a dude to endure a few days of vasectomy pain to prevent the death of an unborn kid, then you can't force a woman to endure even a few days of pregnancy pain for the same cause.  Nobody will experience both a vasectomy and pregnancy; I'd rather weight both pains equally per unit of time.

If you want abortion banned, then get a vasectomy.