Jet Fighters Mafia - DP3

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Wait Banana is town.

She could've voted Whiteflame and didn't, if she were scum.
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@Moozer325
Lunatic and I aren't town confirmed anymore. Redirector is possible.
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@Lunatic
results?
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@Mharman
But is it likely? I know it's on the list but do we have any reason to specifically believe it exists?
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Thinking about it, a potential redirector also means we can't just shrug our shoulders and say Moozer is town confirmed either.
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@Moozer325
But is it likely? I know it's on the list but do we have any reason to specifically believe it exists?
Not atm that I can think of, but the potential is worth thinking about.
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Banana is the only one I am 100% sure is town now.

The other three are open, although Whiteflame is still my most likely pick.
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@Mharman
Let's think this out then. If there is a redirector, who's the best Lynch?
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@Mharman
In the situation where I'm scum and the redirector, it frankly makes no sense for me to do what I did. I would have known Pie was a cop, and statically it's more likely from my POV that he picks a town member than me. My best course of action would be to redirect him to me, and get an easy mislynch, but that didn't happen. I somehow knew that he would cop me, so I used a whole action working on the assumption that he was going to cop me, and I redirected him to someone I knew was town. It doesn't really make sense.
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@Moozer325
Not sure yet. I was supposed to do some analysis last DP, but I decided to do other things with my day (older sister is in town). Allow me to finally get to it.
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@Moozer325
In the situation where I'm scum and the redirector, it frankly makes no sense for me to do what I did. I would have known Pie was a cop, and statically it's more likely from my POV that he picks a town member than me. My best course of action would be to redirect him to me, and get an easy mislynch, but that didn't happen. I somehow knew that he would cop me, so I used a whole action working on the assumption that he was going to cop me, and I redirected him to someone I knew was town. It doesn't really make sense.
How would you have known Pie was a cop come NP1?
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@Mharman
Even more to my point. Why would I choose someone who I didn't know the role of and redirect them to someone randomly?
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@Moozer325
Depends on what you thought he was in that scenario.
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@Mharman
Well how could I have had that strong a read on him to be sure enough of his role to spend my action redirecting him. 
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Admittedly double voter being a fake claim is possible, although it looks unlikely. Banana is not town confirmed, although I still like her behavior.
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@Moozer325
Not sure
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Banana being ready to verify her role tells me she's not fakeclaiming. She's town.
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@Mharman
Ah redirector. You're right. Neither of us are confirmed then.
If there is a redirect or technically moozer isn’t confirmed either. If banana dies instead of moozer I’d wonder if it was him.
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Whiteflame/Lunatic/Moozer... my original pool from the end of the DP1. lol. Excuse me while I go on a deep dive.
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@Mharman
So to recap, I'm not town confirmed because in the unlikely event of a scum redirector, I could have randomly chosen to redirect pie for reasons unknown. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I'm 99% town confirmed, and I'm 98% sure Whiteflame is scum. I get that you want to take this slow, but it's just so random that it seems pointless.
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@Mharman
results?
I was 1x remember? But even if I wasn’t I wouldn’t have got anything with pie dead.
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@Moozer325
So to recap, I'm not town confirmed because in the unlikely event of a scum redirector, I could have randomly chosen to redirect pie for reasons unknown. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I'm 99% town confirmed, and I'm 98% sure Whiteflame is scum. I get that you want to take this slow, but it's just so random that it seems pointless.
If Whiteflame flips town we have to consider the possibility of some fvckery because all three of us are town confirmed and if Whiteflame is innocent and banana is guilty she just auto wins. Since she hasn’t hammered yet it’s kind of obvious she isn’t lying. So yeah either Whiteflame is scum or there is a scum redirect or or something that messed with results no matter what.


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@Bullish
Does a journalist get results from a cop the same night a cop dies?
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@Lunatic
alright

1x makes sense, I'll give you that
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@Mharman
Is there anything more you wanna discuss or should we send this thing to lylo before bullish goes to bed?
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@whiteflame
Any last thoughts or ideas to help us going into lylo?
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@Lunatic
At this point, I'm just kind of baffled. It's possible that one of my RBs was prevented, but that would be pure speculation at this point. That just leaves Moozer, who was Copped innocent (and That2's flip suggests it's unlikely that was manipulated) and Banana. I guess she'd be my sus, but her reticence to just use her double voter to end me helps her case. Still, probably the one with the least support since she'd just be role confirmed.
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@Mharman
Does a journalist get results from a cop the same night a cop dies?
yes
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Pie was also odd night so I wouldn’t have gotten anything anyway
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Oh nvm I guess he lied about that just saw the graveyard lol