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The PM seemed private enough. It can't lead to your real identity as far as what I can tell. I didn't show anything personal in there just shared your opinion which I also think you publicly stand behind. I can't see how anyone can use that information to find you or harm you in anyway or how the information is too personal given they are your personal opinions
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I think you asked what denomination in some other thread but I was busy.

I am seeking to convert to Catholicism. If Christianity is true than so is Catholicism and if Catholicism is false so is Christianity. It's also maybe the only denomination that doesn't force you to shut off your brain. 

It's rough though. I got a son and a LTR that I would have to drag into it or with the LTR I would have to get rid of her if she didn't come on board. 

I wouldn't half ass anything so I couldn't live in sin while becoming Catholic  if something is a part of Catholicism  than I am not going to cherry pick things not that there isn't room for different opinions but if there is not room than I will adopt that opinion so no conversion until I can make sure I don't screw it up.
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If I had taken the direct opposite side thered be HUGER issues but such is life and God's will.

For the record I was in a very bad place mentally. I realised along tbe way a flaw in therapy, it is not that it is wrong but it is incomplete. It never answers your real questions if you have existential anxiety.
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I agree hard to this:

I am seeking to convert to Catholicism. If Christianity is true than so is Catholicism and if Catholicism is false so is Christianity.
The other parts are not necessarily true. A lot of Catholicism is 'shut up and accept this doctrine' but God's will would be bossy if he is as Cheustian describe.

I definitely would bit say it is inherebtly the smartest sect. It is a sec btw the closest to denoms in it is Rites and they mainly differ on traditions but all obey Rome's catechism (Holy See but we still call it Rome as a nod to the Past but basically Latin Rite is the apex Rite no matter how you look at it).
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I wouldn't half ass anything so I couldn't live in sin while becoming Catholic
A Cath would never ever have your pfp btw but we are all sinners and you never fully stop venial sinning, maximum you find a way to avoid mortally sinning for extended periods. Even a bad attitude leading to snapping at someone or being lazy is venial sinning, you get the concept?
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A Cath would never ever have your pfp btw but we are all sinners and you never fully stop venial sinning, maximum you find a way to avoid mortally sinning for extended periods. Even a bad attitude leading to snapping at someone or being lazy is venial sinning, you get the concept?
My feeling is that the pfp shouldn't matter at all. In an ideal world we only look at arguments and don't have visceral reactions to images. 

For the record I was in a very bad place mentally. I realised along tbe way a flaw in therapy, it is not that it is wrong but it is incomplete. It never answers your real questions if you have existential anxiety.
Studies show the devoutly religious have significantly less mental illness and becoming religious seems to work better than therapy. It's why therapists do a lot of studies on religions looking for the secret sauce. 

Either scenario atheists or theists are right. If theists are right than obviously worship of God is good for you but what therapists miss is that even if atheists are right, religion would be an adaptation to the human condition and have an evolutionary advantage. They can't realize this fact though because liberals in general like to tinker and don't understand the concept of Chesterton's post. Or perhaps I should generalize less and say progressive, but it seems all the non progressives left the party.
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You realise you are a fake Christian to even think this way with all the 'if atheism is true' conjecture?

It is 100% real. Online Priests even advised me well, Bible didn't save me, Catechism concepts, traditions and rules inspired by the Bible did.

I got signs I don't care to justify to you. It was like I realised this entire time my old god(dess) concept was lacking something, there was a fundamental missing piece.

The hugest thing I realised is that she/it was Satan at times and HS at others. Jesus at times, a demon infested deep in me at others.

It was in me years back. I was acting as I acted from the start on debate sites after it was inside me already.

This is not mental illness it is real. Catholivs make clear it is not metaphor. Satan and demons are completely real. I even think at times Mary was via God's permission and enabling her to reach me in transmission somehow reaching out to me abd/or other Saints were allowed to by God. I am convinced firmly that is why I first percieved my goddess as having a blue and white aura. Mary in Cath doctrine is constantly depicted with such aura. Jesus is red and white aura. I also perceived red. Black/dark must be Satan and demons, as ofc is some red mixed in maybe but it felt as if Red had 2 different meanings to me. It is even in flags a lot and political parties and I couldn't pinpoint it.

I obviously don't mean race when I say these colours and I am tired of caring how mentally ill it sounds. Every single experience I ever had with my deity concept previously led me to the Cath faith. Even the way they dress and operate in OG trad stuff is so disciplined, ninja esque and that style has always appealed to me. The plain robes, the modesty, the discipline, the quiet masculinity vs the overt of most other sects and faiths. It all appealed so much to me, I had just not noticed the raw form of Catholicism much in my life as it is so altered these days and masked.

Wylted listen to me, I have had books or papers fall on the floor I left there. I sit on the bed in existential angst and in front of my eyes, the brand name of one book and title of another and image of another add up to the exact answer to what I am asking or reference an earlier moment to answer me clearly. Not often at all. These things happened more and more and more and more and more the more I had faith in the Christian God. You do not understand man, he is literally real.

Song lyrics too.
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So to be fair there is the argument that America has spread its shit elsewhere while being able to dodge its own shit better than others.
Trump tried to ban Muslims from entering America in his first term. But in his second term he want Muslim Arab money and investments to freely enter the country.
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You realise you are a fake Christian to even think this way with all the 'if atheism is true' conjecture?
These appeals are so they can more easily accept the smaller but true conclusion. 

Wylted listen to me, I have had books or papers fall on the floor I left there. I sit on the bed in existential angst and in front of my eyes, the brand name of one book and title of another and image of another add up to the exact answer to what I am asking or reference an earlier moment to answer me clearly. Not often at all. These things happened more and more and more and more and more the more I had faith in the Christian God. 
I believe you

You do not understand man, he is literally real.
I know.
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Trump tried to ban Muslims from entering America in his first term. But in his second term he want Muslim Arab money and investments to freely enter the country.
Yes his philosophy can be called transactionalist. So Muslims in general bring an increase in terrorism but money from billionaire Arabs brings higher GDP and a new Air Force 1. 

So it's not consistent in say Muslim = bad . It's more Muslims is good or bad based on how useful they are for America, so your average one, useless to harmful. Billionaires. Useful
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You do not seem to think in a Christian way.

The way you process the world is a different framework.
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I think the Supreme Court just gave grounds for the impeachment of Trump for violating the Constitution.
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Why do American Caths like Trump
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I think the Supreme Court just gave grounds for the impeachment of Trump for violating the Constitution.
You know how America works. No grounds are needed. It's going to happen if Democrats win in the midterms no matter what
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I think the Supreme Court just gave grounds for the impeachment of Trump for violating the Constitution.
Trump made economy better, but what he did to people is terrible. I think Palestine and Ukraine suffer the most because of Trump, but so do migrants. Trump already has highest disapproval rate so far. I think maybe up to one third of those who voted for him now regret it. He achieved some good things, but his actions are too much for many people. Presenting himself as pope was probably the biggest insult he ever did to his faith, even tho there were many others. I dont think even his supporters really thought he was like this. Now they follow him just so that they wouldnt have to admit being wrong. I dont think reducing inflation by 2% is even worth all this. He made wars worse for many.
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He didnt stay true to what he promised Zelensky anyway.

He said Zelensky has to give up land for guaranteed peace. Now Putin wants everything.
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He didnt stay true to what he promised Zelensky anyway.

He said Zelensky has to give up land for guaranteed peace. Now Putin wants everything.
Trump is still waiting for Putin’s offer to him like another Trump tower in Moscow.
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He said Zelensky has to give up land for guaranteed peace. Now Putin wants everything.
Zelensky is in a horrible position there. At this point, it seems Trump might actually be more willing to help Russia if Russia offers him some resources in return. Its all for money. Trump doesnt fight for other values. All his talk is always about money alone.
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He said Zelensky has to give up land for guaranteed peace. Now Putin wants everything.
Zelensky is in a horrible position there. At this point, it seems Trump might actually be more willing to help Russia if Russia offers him some resources in return. It’s all for money. Trump doesnt fight for other values. All his talk is always about money alone
But Putin is not going to offer Trump money.
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But Putin is not going to offer Trump money.
I dont know what Putin offered him, but it is clear that Putin gained in this war more land than he lost. And now Putin probably gets to keep all land he took away. I am guessing some resources from that land will probably be shared with Trump. Trump anyway said many times that just supporting Ukraine is a waste of money there. He will force peace, and by that, I mean he will force Ukraine to sign a terrible peace deal.
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He is Christian in name only I feel. Forgive me Father and Christ if I am wrong and he is really Christian in heart...
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He is Christian in name only I feel. Forgive me Father and Christ if I am wrong and he is really Christian in heart...
Person can change at any moment, but his life history doesnt seem any Christian. Take away the label, and all whats left is power hungry billionaire who openly brags about having sex with married women. He has broken almost every possible commandment there. I am sure he thinks he is Christian, but his deeds dont really show it there.
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The 10 commandments are not exactly as central as you assume, to a Christian. They matter but 7 deadly sins matter more and there is more to it than that.

For instance Catholics see a huge difference between poor stealing same amount from rich as rich from poor. Latter is far more immoral and our catechism states this.