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I have not seem Adam in ages. Not sure he would do that. 
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Official Vote Count:

Earth- 2/6- Mikal, Casey
Austin- 2/6- Whiteflame, savant
Moozer- 3/6- Mharman, Wylted, Banana

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Well, less than 24 hours left in the day phase and nothing from Austin or Moozer. Not excited to lynch inactives even if that's where I'm leaning, so maybe we have other players sub in for them and ask to extend the day phase. Curious to see how others want to handle this.
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@Savant
Well, less than 24 hours left in the day phase and nothing from Austin or Moozer. Not excited to lynch inactives even if that's where I'm leaning, so maybe we have other players sub in for them and ask to extend the day phase. Curious to see how others want to handle this.
Um... might want to take a look back at the OP (bolding added):

With 11 players alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority for a lynch. Day phase will end in 72 hours, or on Tuesday, 5/20/25 at 10 am EST. 
We actually have 48 hours left in the DP. Yeah, I'm pretty surprised we had so much activity this early as well, all happened within the first 24 hours. Not saying that we should just wait them out because we have more time, but as of now, I don't think we need an extension, particularly if they're just replaced.
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@whiteflame
WF

Make a lynch order for me. I don’t want reads. I want top to bottom lynch priority on people who are playing. You are doing this thing

Where it’s like I’m not saying we should or shouldn’t and I don’t really read anybody as scum. Lock in and give me an order. Who are we killing ?
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@Mikal
I mean... based on everything we know so far, order goes:

Mharman
WyIted
Earth

I don't like lynching inactives just because they're not here. I think both Mharman and WyIted haven't really done anything to distinguish themselves as town, and Earth's done about as little as possible to distinguish himself as town.

Once we get out of that set, it becomes looser. Pie and Banana are in similar company ahead of you and Savant, and Casey's least likely to be my lynch choice.
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@whiteflame
I can get on board with this except for wylted. I don’t think scum wylted tries to piss me off out of the gate. 

I struggle with Mharm. He is prob the hardest person to read on the site for me. He tends to play so randomly that he is anti town as town.  How play as improved but the thought process with how he gets to ideas is all over the place 

Earth - this is my number one 


How do you propose we deal with inactives if not shoot if they don’t come back ?
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I am proposing we wait out the dp at this point. Moozer and Austin have us by the dick so we are largely at their mercy. We should let the clock tick and hope one of them starts to engage 
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How do you propose we deal with inactives if not shoot if they don’t come back ?
Hopefully just get them replaced. Absent any potential replacements, yeah, we might just have to lynch one. I'm just not going to advocate for that with two days left in the DP.

I'm fine with setting aside WyIted for now. And I'm good with pushing Mharman and/or Earth at this point. I think at least getting some clear reads from Mharman seems warranted (don't think I've seen any), and based on those, we can push for a claim.

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Catching up now
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Both of you are reading Casey as town. I am not sold on this but they are active. Wf and savant are in my town block. Wf loosely. Savant way more firmly. 

I propose we pick someone and get them at l-5 and force a claim. We need to push someone this dp and lock someone into something. 

Personally I think the inactives are a waste of a vote atm. They aren’t here. Voting them does nothing If they are not looking. We will deal with them when they show up or decide if we want to shoot if they aren’t here by Tuesday. If they aren’t here at the end of the dp. We need  a resolution. Replace or kill. Letting them sit there and do nothing is going to throw the game. 


Lets pick someone and force a claim so we get something out of this dp 

I’m fine with 

Earth 
Mharm 
Or Anna 

Are you guys okay with forced pressure on 1/3 

Thoughts ?



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@Mikal
I struggle with Mharm. He is prob the hardest person to read on the site for me. He tends to play so randomly that he is anti town as town.
Really? That's not how I think of Mharman at all. I actually think he's a great town player.
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@Mikal
Already got my vote on Mharman. I'm good with hitting up either him or Earth for a claim, but only the latter has a set of reads, so I'm going to give Mharman an opportunity to write his out before pushing for anything more substantial.
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@Casey_Risk
Really? That's not how I think of Mharman at all. I actually think he's a great town player.
I agree, I think he's gotten far more incisive as a town player. That's part of the reason I want to see his reads.

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@whiteflame
What happened to the town read on me? Is it just the lack of reads that bother you? I’m working on it.
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@Mikal
Are you guys okay with forced pressure on 1/3 

Thoughts ?
If we're going to pressure someone on that list, I'd rather it be Mharman or Earth. Mharman just got here, though, so let's hear his thoughts first. Then we can decide who to pressure.
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@Mharman
What happened to the town read on me? Is it just the lack of reads that bother you? I’m working on it.
Might have had a townread on you at some point. It's mainly the lack of posting that's setting me on edge.
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I don’t want to pressure for reads. I want reads in the process. I want to Poe off that and pressure for a full claim. I think we need to tie someone to something this dp. Dp1 is mostly useless. Locking someone into something they cant wiggle out of is always the best use of it imo 

I don’t know if and when the inactives are showing up. They have to be dealt with as mentioned but they aren’t going to respond cus they aren’t here right now. We can figure out how to handle that if they don’t show up. 

But to make use of the time, if it’s Mharm or earth. Let’s pick one and get a full claim 


i agree with letting Mharm clarify his thoughts more fully before we decide so we can Poe properly. 
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At least it looks like they aren’t here. I’m watching their profiles and it hasn’t turned green. Can WF check to see their last online. INB4 they are here and just not posting to see if they can get away. I’ve seen it happen but moozer kinda did this a bit last game and someone said Austin is bad about it 
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@Casey_Risk
And yeah Mharm is a xtrmely hard for me to read. So is superdud. I struggle with players below a certain threshold. That’s not saying they are bad. Just a majority of my mafia was with blue steel, Luna, ft, xlav, f16, Danielle etc. 

Usually when you have players that talk and think a lot, you can always read back and see changes in logic or if their motives shift or stuff does not align 

Certain players tend to bounce all over the place which is usually a scum tell but for them they do it as town 

It’s incredibly hard to read intention from that in my experience 
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@Mikal
I’m here and reading, periodically checking the current page while I catch up- rn I’m around post 105

Torn on you and Banana… more sus of you (Mikal) than I am of Banana… have a feeling something is there, less confident as to what
Whiteflame leaning town, fyi he could easily appeal to you as town bc I understand the frustration from his POV, the “let’s get Whiteflame to claim early DP1” thing def does ruin the fun for him, even as town
Casey reads town based on the character hint
Savant’s logic seems inconsistent in places, the effort looks good
Wylted leaning scum. Felt like it’s taking him a while to generate even the slightest of activity based reads… a lot of his posts up to this point are meaningless and do nothing… wondering what the intent of theorizing about filming locations. For example, if he noticed a trend among he and teammates’ characters, he may be trying to verify, which could help them determine how easy the theme split is to crack and whether or not they could get away with claiming their actual characters
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98… Casey might be onto something, although all else with Pie looks normal to me
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Just a heads up, I'm about to go and spend some time with family, and tomorrow is when the work week starts, so my activity is about to fall significantly. I'll still try to post when I can. 
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Official Vote Count:

Mharman- 1/6- Whiteflame
Austin- 1/6- savant
Earth- 2/6- Mikal, Casey
Moozer- 3/6- Mharman, Wylted, Banana


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@Mikal
I don’t think I will ever tell you my name at any point ever lol
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Finished reading all the posts btw.
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@Mikal
If I fullclaim, would you stop deathtunneling me? Honest question. 
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FYI I am typing those reads up. First post will be the nulls and confident reads, the others I’ll try to do deep dives on specific players one post at a time
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@Earth
If I fullclaim, would you stop deathtunneling me? Honest question. 
Doubt it. He’s been death tunneling me for advocating for a mass soft claim. Something we’ve literally done in every single game. I don’t regret it either lol. 
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Buffer post to put reads at the start of next page where they’ll be nice and visible