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I literally have offered myself to die tomorrow if I don’t deliver results. 

Explained it all in detail. When you get a chance go read it 
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@iamanabanana
Everything you've ever said this ENTIRE game has been wifom. I don't know why no one else calls you out on it.
The reason your reads haven't caught on is that you've been hyperfocusing on a single point (willingness to vote Earth), which isn't even a scummy thing, since Earth was in PoE yesterday.
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@Savant
The reason your reads haven't caught on is that you've been hyperfocusing on a single point (willingness to vote Earth), which isn't even a scummy thing, since Earth was in PoE yesterday.
I don't think I was hyperfocused on earth, Mikal was, and was actively trying to push his lynch, and I still don't think the reasons were very good. Basically that he was "scummy" and "defensive" and I honestly thought he looked less so than in other games I've seen him in, and plus his claim was very very solid. Earth became the hyperfocus of last day phase for poor reasons, so I was looking into anyone who seemed to agree with those reasons as a good reason to lynch him because that was obviously scums goal for a mislynch dp1.
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@iamanabanana
I don't think I was hyperfocused on earth, Mikal was, and was actively trying to push his lynch
There's a difference between being focused on a player you're trying to lynch (what Mikal did) and being focused on a single reason to lynch a player (what you're doing now). The latter isn't always scummy, but it's not usually convincing.
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@iamanabanana
Furthermore, Earth is still alive, and Mikal hasn't been trying to push him.
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@Savant
There's a difference between being focused on a player you're trying to lynch (what Mikal did) and being focused on a single reason to lynch a player (what you're doing now). The latter isn't always scummy, but it's not usually convincing.
The entire reason I suspect mikal is that he is pushing for mislynch targets, and he is using his activity as town cred to blatantly manipulate people into thinking hes got to be town because there is no way scum would be this active right? But if you actually read what he says, the arguments he has really don't make a lot of sense. I don't understand how he gets away with it really. The same thing applies to his whiteflame lynch, which really also makes no sense. He is a smart person capable of logic, so when he used bad logic this should be a red flag to people. I am very surprised he is not to more people than just me.

Furthermore, Earth is still alive, and Mikal hasn't been trying to push him.
If earth didn't win that cop ability last day phase, I guarantee you he would still be pushing him. Now it is blatantly scummy for him to push earth. Him backing off earth suddenly after earth is has a good reason to be town now should be a warning sign to you. It shows that behavior wasn't ever really taken into account like he is pretending it was.
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@iamanabanana
The entire reason I suspect mikal is that he is pushing for mislynch targets
Everyone Mikal has pushed for is well within PoE. How do you know for certain that Mharman and whiteflame are mislynch targets? Even if you are innocent and thus know you are a mislynch target, I know that I'm a mislynch target, so I could accuse you of the same thing.
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@iamanabanana
if everyone else agrees they see logic in what I’m saying and understand why I’m saying it and you are literally the only one who disagrees, that may be a you problem. I am not going to go back and re type and retype and run in circles over my thoughts. They are there to read 

and also yes.  Earth claiming he got the town item and not getting cced is enough of a reason not to sus him for now. Could he be mafia and have the mafia item sure. If he uses it he’s dead. So more pressing issues like Poe and whiteflame. Game dynamics change, go figure. 

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@Savant
Everyone Mikal has pushed for is well within PoE. How do you know for certain that Mharman and whiteflame are mislynch targets? Even if you are innocent and thus know you are a mislynch target, I know that I'm a mislynch target, so I could accuse you of the same thing.
I can read the room. If you notice, the most active players seem to be dominating most of the discussion. You, pie, mikal etc. And I disagree that you are really a mislynch target, most people seem to have you in their town pools. Mharman wasn't a mislynch target until today. Also mislynch suggest I know the person is town, which I don't, but I am noticing trends, 'activity bullying' is one. Its crazy to me that neither you pie nor mikal have even role claimed but are the ones leading the day phase for example and dominating the discussion of who to lynch, how to vote, etc.

From your seat its easy to throw suspicion on someone who has claimed, for example trying to spin mharmans role as a slip with the oracle, when you yourself haven't even claimed yet.. Same goes for mikal and pie. I do think pie is town so he's the only one I am giving a pass to, and mainly because he also saw through mikals guise last day phase and pointed out that he was pushing "easy" targets.


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Agree with you or scum got it. Logic good 
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Moozer defend her town. 
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@Mikal
if everyone else agrees they see logic in what I’m saying and understand why I’m saying it and you are literally the only one who disagrees, that may be a you problem. I am not going to go back and re type and retype and run in circles over my thoughts. They are there to read 
Its not "everyone" thought thats the point. Its the select few that happen to have the time and availability to drown out the other voices. Again its funny that you are so quick to use ad populum now, when last day phase you were quick to use the opposite card "No one is agreeing with me thus my read has to be true". You pick the safest lane each time to justify your position.

and also yes.  Earth claiming he got the town item and not getting cced is enough of a reason not to sus him for now. Could he be mafia and have the mafia item sure. If he uses it he’s dead. So more pressing issues like Poe and whiteflame. Game dynamics change, go figure. 
Thank god earth happens to be good at trivia, other wise you would have one more mislynch lined up.
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Going to vote for
1. Pie
2. Moozer
3. Mikal
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@Mikal
Agree with you or scum got it. Logic good 
You are actually a child. Maybe I'll start talking to you like one if thats how you are going to act.
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@Savant
I just noticed your posts. I'll vote for
1. Mikal
2. Pie
3. Moozer
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Anyways I am going to be busy for a bit today. Tag me if I am needed for something, I get an email everytime someone @'s me, otherwise I might not check on this until later tonight.
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Down to you two. Time for you to vote on who to give the item to. Put Mikal as #1, avoid using the same second and third choices that have been used already:

Also, DONT put Pie or Moozer for any of your choices, they have received the most votes so far.

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I mean, aside from Mikal. But we want to ensure Mikal gets the item.
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Believe it or not, mafia used to be this crazy with the post counts all time. But that was long ago
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Btw interrogation starts after the Pacers beat the Knicks tonight
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@Savant
Okay, gonna vote 

1. Mikal
2. Banana
3. Earth

Why did we decide to give it Mikal? Not going against it, but I'm still in the process of catching up right now so a TLDR would be nice.
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Ok I’m here 
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Assuming Austin proves he’s the gladiator, he and Moozer cannot both be scum because Moozer proved he’s Popular and Austin will confirm today.
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@Savant
Can you tally up up the votes based on a 3-2-1 system. Rank 1 getting 3 points and Rank 2 getting 2, and so on. I want to see where we are before I place my vote. Because theoretically scum could not place Mikal at all and place someone else at the top
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@ILikePie5
Here are all the votes so far. I don't think Earth or I have any yet:

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@Moozer325
Why did we decide to give it Mikal?
He claims to have a plan that he can't share because scum would disrupt it. I'm assuming this has to do with role information he hasn't shared. Regardless, he promised to provide a really good explanation tomorrow for this secrecy or else we can lynch him.
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@Savant
Bruh that’s not what I asked. Nvm I’ll do it myself when I get home 
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I still don’t like Banana’s claim. It’s possible Savant could technically have it too with Howie Mandel. I also don’t like that Banana had Wylted in her null pile DP1
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@Savant
I get that part, and I'm on board with his plan. The problem is I'm not seeing the translation from that to trusting him on everything so much that we give him the item. Either way though, I trust you enough and I already voted so this is kinda pointless.