Game Show Mafia DP2

1. Your lynch gives us useful information about banana.

2. You agreeing to go along with the plan to confirm Austin.

3. Others I trust want to target you, and I'd rather coordinate with them than risk lynching outside my PoE

If you have any additional reads on Mharman or banana's behavior, I will definitely take them seriously, especially if you flip innocent. Just because I think you are the best person for Austin to target doesn't mean I'm discounting the possibility that you are town, and if you are, any comments you have today on PoE (including the ones you've already given) will be helpful for town.

It’s the arguments about how I thought I could get away with this claim as scum that baffle me

If WF just never submitted an answer (instead of submitting a silly one) would he lose by default? If he's town, I think that's the best way to play it safe.

I gave my reads already. I scumread Mharman. I townread Banana, especially given my result. I don’t have any other scumreads currently. Given that DP has mostly been focused on Banana and me, and everyone seems relatively agreed on the reasoning for it, nothing has meaningfully changed.

Ok, maybe I'm just not getting this. Couldn't you say this about any claim if you were on the chopping block? "You're lynching me right now, so obviously I would never expect to get away with this claim." How is this not WIFOM, or saying that we should never lynch anyone who gives a suspicious claim? Obviously scum is never going to say "I would give this claim as scum."

Why do you townread Banana?

Alright. If everyone else is okay with ending the day early, I can do it as soon as Lunatic gets back to me.

Tagging everyone right now, in case you want to give any last thoughts or want to tell me to wait a bit.

That’s not what I said at all. I said that the reasoning you and others are using for lynching me have focused in part (or in some cases to a large extent) on me making an absolutely idiotic decision to claim the way I did as scum. The point isn’t that people shouldn’t lynch sus claims, it’s that I’m shocked so many people are buying into any of these narratives regarding what led me to do this. How many times have you or others repeated that you’ve been sussing me because I might have used a fake claim offered by Luna, only to basically discard the fact that I would have access to such a claim and believe that I’ve discarded it to claim something Luna himself effectively CC’d to everyone? I sincerely cannot imagine what mentality I’d have to be in to ignore the trivia rewards (or somehow bank on them supporting me) and just wing it with my own claim.

Result. She went to the target she said she visited. Maybe she’s using that to get townread, but it’s one of the few pieces of info I have on another player that’s verified.

I’ve been fairly consistent in saying that that I think your character and role are real, just that the 3 roles are scum aligned. You claimed 2/3 roles that town could receive. 

I’m also surprised that you’re giving Banana a pass just because you saw her visit Savant. Why can she not be scum. At least that’s the vibe I’ve gotten. What about her behavior makes her townie. I also feel like you’ve ignored certain points, like Fear Factor being Casey’s claim because of the Joe Rogan link.

I also think your read on Mharman is purely based on POE vs behavior and I can’t recall who you think his scum partner would be.

Well that’s exactly my point, I don’t think that should be enough for you to town read her especially considering the circumstances around her claim and her “null” read on Wylted basically the entire game.

I’ve claimed 3/3, actually - the reward this DP is a watcher/tracker, so it’s 2 roles rolled into one. I still think it’s a baffling take.

I didn’t say she’s lock town. I said I’m townreading her for being the only person whose visit I can verify. She absolutely could be scum and still have visited him, but it’s a factor from where I’m sitting.

If there’s reason to push her based on the Joe Rogan link, fine. It’s not something I’ve really considered strongly, and I’ll leave that up to you guys to discuss. If you haven’t noticed, I’ve been a bit distracted this DP.

Her read on WyIted was part of the reason I targeted her in the first place, since Mharman was sussing him, but I don’t think it outweighs the result. Having a bad call on WyIted is a factor, but not a given to be scummy.

Why? You just did it the previous game?

So you’re telling me that you believe her when she says she chose to visit Savant last second? She ranked you above Wylted, who was above Mharman as most likely to be scum.

That’s fine, but again, I feel that you’re not even open to the idea based on the way I see it.

She had you first on the list. WF, Wylted, Mharman. She also scumread Mikal and apparently Savant. She chose Savant after Wylted flipped guilty? It’s odd

My read on wylted was null because he really didn't contribute much, but it might as well have been a scum tell because other than mikal and a light read on austin and wwhiteflame I had basically everyone else as town at the time.

And I specifically pointed out him calling out characters in my read, I did that specifically because he was calling out fear factor. I wasn't around at the end of the day phase to press him so its hardly fair to use that against me. Wylted was in my POE before most people were really considering him.

Also the point about caseys hint is really such a bad argument, I have already pointed out there are several other hosts that casey could have been talking about. Drew Carrie (Moozers show), Steve Harvey (Austins show), Howie Mendel (Savants show), and Bob Barker (Mharmans show) all are people I think are widely considered big recognizable celebrity names. I don't know why you are hyper focused on mine being the only one that fits that category.

We good?

Trying to stay up but falling asleep 

I was literally the first person to soft something about my character, so you can argue that I already had a claim locked in from the mod, or you can argue that I took caseys, but you can't argue both.

The other side of the coin is that I am actually being honest about my character. It's ironic that the one game I barely volunteer information about my role is the one where its used against me the most as a scum tell for offering the very little in which I did (Mikal) and also a point of hurt because if I had claimed my show early on this wouldn't even be an argument from pie. I have arguments pointed at me that say im scummy either way, and it really makes no sense!