The Social Security Trust Fund robbery

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Let’s dispel the rumor that Social Security, initially set up in the 1930s in the Roosevelt administration for the benefit of retirees, is a socialist program. It is not “an entitlement,” because all the money paid into the S.S. Trust Fund is out of private industry, not public money. The paycheck stub calls these payments “FICA,” [Federal Insurance Corporation of America], and consist of payments we make out of each personal paycheck from our employers to cover future retirement expenses in the form of monthly Social Security and Medicare payments. Our employers match our paycheck FICA contributions  over the course of our careers, which should be considered as additional income, but slated for investment purpose rather than in-pocket, like a private savings account. 
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL33028
So, none of the input is public money, so the payout from the government is not an entitlement; it is our private money, earned by working [ours and our employers’ money]. It is therefore not a socialist program, as many today accuse.
The government is often accused of robbing money out of the Social Security Trust Fund that our private contributions, and those of our employers, feed. The government denies the “theft,” but, they do acknowledge “borrowing” money from it.  To date, as of the end of fiscal year 2024 [September 30, 2024], the government owes the Trust Fund $2.5 trillion dollars. The robbery accusation appears to be a reality given the size of the debt; it is just called “borrowing.” By the way, the congress.gov reference from above stipulates that, by law, the borrowed money must be reimbursed by the government. Past time to pay-up, and given the size of the incurred debt, Congress is, once again, dragging its feet. How about changing the law that allows government to “borrow” from the Social Security Trust Fund in the first place? It is patently unfair to impose this debt on taxpayers whose own future access to Social Security they are currently paying into is at risk to be utterly lost to them.
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Well stated.
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Thanks. Socialism does not help itself by throwing bombs ir cannot afford
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Words of a rich man that never knew poverty.
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and...? Does that change the facts? Socialism is a failed enterprise because it does not know how to create wealth. Never has, never will, because the foundation is flawed.
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Yes. It is called perspective.
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Let’s dispel the rumor that Social Security, initially set up in the 1930s in the Roosevelt administration for the benefit of retirees, is a socialist program. It is not “an entitlement,” because all the money paid into the S.S. Trust Fund is out of private industry, not public money. The paycheck stub calls these payments “FICA,” [Federal Insurance Corporation of America], and consist of payments we make out of each personal paycheck from our employers to cover future retirement expenses in the form of monthly Social Security and Medicare payments. Our employers match our paycheck FICA contributions  over the course of our careers, which should be considered as additional income, but slated for investment purpose rather than in-pocket, like a private savings account. 
So, none of the input is public money, so the payout from the government is not an entitlement; it is our private money, earned by working [ours and our employers’ money]. It is therefore not a socialist program, as many today accuse.
The government is often accused of robbing money out of the Social Security Trust Fund that our private contributions, and those of our employers, feed. The government denies the “theft,” but, they do acknowledge “borrowing” money from it.  To date, as of the end of fiscal year 2024 [September 30, 2024], the government owes the Trust Fund $2.5 trillion dollars. The robbery accusation appears to be a reality given the size of the debt; it is just called “borrowing.” By the way, the congress.gov reference from above stipulates that, by law, the borrowed money must be reimbursed by the government. Past time to pay-up, and given the size of the incurred debt, Congress is, once again, dragging its feet. How about changing the law that allows government to “borrow” from the Social Security Trust Fund in the first place? It is patently unfair to impose this debt on taxpayers whose own future access to Social Security they are currently paying into is at risk to be utterly lost to them.
They stole our $2.5 trillion, and I'm old enough to remember when 2.5 trillion was a lot of money.
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When a corporate executiv0e is caught "borrowing" from the employee pension fund, they go to jail, it happens all the time.  I'm sure every one of them sat in jail saying, "I was going to pay it back".


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I'm sure everyone should know by now that anything sent to Washington DC is gone forever. Finders keepers, losers weepers is the DC mantra. What can you do? They have all the fancy guns.
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They stole our $2.5 trillion, and I'm old enough to remember when 2.5 trillion was a lot of money.
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When a corporate executiv0e is caught "borrowing" from the employee pension fund, they go to jail, it happens all the time.  I'm sure every one of them sat in jail saying, "I was going to pay it back".
The federal government currently has $36.22 trillion in federal debt. Learn how the national debt works and how it impacts you.



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I'm sure everyone should know by now that anything sent to Washington DC is gone forever. Finders keepers, losers weepers is the DC mantra. What can you do? They have all the fancy guns.
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When E Musk was still in Washington, I saw him on tv stating how SS Entitlements was the next big one we have to deal with , as in get rid of.
In his comment he stated nothing about SS fraud, misuse, waster etc.  My co-worker said that is what he meant.  I dont think so.

There is reason{s} so many have a distaste/dislike for E Musk.
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Why do you assume the worst in all humans? What's the point of even talking?
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S.S. is not entitlement. Didn't reads my post #1, ebuc read or understand my #1 post. Every penny is the SS Trust Fund is private money, not public out of your taxes. Even the interest on what's in the fund is private money. Get it?
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Fauxlaw still has me blocked and apparrently does not understand my last post about the nutter E Musk.

Fauxlaw said last year he would unblock me when I figured how to do that.
In red colors....fauxlaw has blocked you.... Click on your My Profile, then scroll lower to first square on left albeled " actions" then  "friends" and look for ebuc, then look for the lock icon with words block or unblock. Simple.
.. '  When E Musk was still in Washington, I saw him on tv stating how SS Entitlements was the next big one we have to deal with , as in get rid of.
In his comment he stated nothing about SS fraud, misuse, waster etc.  My co-worker said that is what he meant.  I dont think so.

There is reason{s} so many have a distaste/dislike for E Musk. '...