Game Show Mafia DP3

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wait h comes before i fml
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@Mikal
When I asked Lunatic if a doctor could use both his role and a 1x cop (from the reward) on the same night, he said yes.
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VTL Austin
VTL Banana
VTL Earth
VTL Mharman
VTL Mikal
VTL Moozer
VTL Savant

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If I start to get pushed I’ll just copy the message and Imgur it so I’m mod killed instead of you guys losing a day phase. 

not that I care about your logic. It’s never solid but i can see where his confirmation of how the roles are used is contradictory to what I was told. Happy to post it if he lets me. 
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@Mikal
My logic on Wylted was solid. This is a statement aimed at getting town to doubt me, pure ad hom and a weak one at that
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@Mharman
StIll thinking froM your Case on Mikal, it's Obviously interesting but his exPlanation will prolly be a lot more alignment indicative than the actual mechanics, different mods mod different ways imo.
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I agree with this part. I asked him about my night action and if I got an item later could I use it along with playing double jeopardy and he told me no. 

I took this as confirmation that only one role could be used but there is technically a difference I guess. But took that as all roles. I can confirm when he’s up. But I think this was a misunderstanding between the jeopardy being used at same time as an item. 

I do see where it looks wrong and don’t blame you for that read. But the rest is stupid 
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@Mikal
If I start to get pushed I’ll just copy the message and Imgur it so I’m mod killed instead of you guys losing a day phase. 
Unironically if Savant uses his role as well, then that'd put us on odd numbers (5 players) at the end of the day so we wouldn't lose a lynch, but also don't do this please, dunno if Luna's going to allow that.

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I mean confirming him as popular townies nukes the reason for a cc. 

I just don’t see a world where that exists 
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I think Pie might be scum, not sure why he hasn't been NKed yet if he's town imo.
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Nvm, mafia killed Pie last night. I just townslipped

(ok 4 agendas so far, obviously don't take any of what I'm saying rn seriously lmao)
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If savant uses his role we likely just outright lose. Cus then you have the same pool and you have to get the lynch right on a 1/3 (well 2/3 more likely) at that point if the vote thing happens to be in play. I’d rather just mod kil myself since savant is largely town read and I think he is basically locked and you have a stronger Poe. 

Assuming that argument is bought. But I can’t control the information Luna gives me or what he said the role was. 
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@Lunatic
Player has a passive role, however, Player can receive an active ability at some point. If Player received an active ability as a gift from town during the day, could Player use both actives role the same night, while their passive role is still active?
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Ok Earth is scum, here's why.

Mikal is back? How about that.
First post of the game. Obvious nervous energy.

@Pie

Really? You want me to post my reads practically every time I post?

My show is after 2000.
Second post of the game. Obviously overdefensive and too eager to claim, he's using a fakeclaim.

You know, I don't know much about it, but there are multiple seasons. I'm debating just outting my show lol.
Third post of the game. Trying to look too towny.

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Boom, three strikes and he's out. VTL Earth due to my case, obvious scum.

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Wow five agendas done and I still haven't done my real one (this is reverse psychology, or is it). I'll do the rest when I get back.

I don't care so much about the use on the same day thing, I can see where that could be a legit misunderstanding, I'm mostly concerned about the rolecop thing tbh, I've just never seen it work that way because it's basically equivalent to a stronger Cop? I'm going to check Luna's old games real quick.
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@Mharman
1a. Is there any way you and Banana could be a false dichotomy?
Yes, if both of us are town.

1b. How likely is it?
I think banana is scum, so not very likely.

2. Why is annoyance/anger/frustration listed as a townlean for some people, but a scumlean for others?
Based on behavior in previous games and how desperate or sincere it seems. For example, I started to think banana's anger was more genuine when she was consistent about her reads.

3. You seem to think I bussed Wylted. What do you think of the idea that you are scum with Wylted, and hard bussed him?
I don't think you bussed him, I think you did a distancing play. I don't think you could have stopped that lynch anyway.

4. What is the case for you being town?
You and banana are scummier than me.
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@Mharman
Unvote right now we don't know if politician is in play.

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Back from work break. Yeah I went back and read. 

I even asked him about this and said, “this is exact role?”  

And he said  “i had to check moozers pm lol” 

It would have given me someones exact role for sure. 
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@AustinL0926

1. Your role is one way town can get help with the numbers disadvantage. However, so is Earth’s, and (possibly, but very unlikely Mikal's). Your take on this?
They seem pretty unrelated, Earth's has to do with an alternative town wincon while mine just redirects the lynch. Any sort of role which messes with the fundamental mechanics of the game, as well as to role mechanics, can be argued to do this.

fixed part of my questions.. I said unlikely cause Mikal's claimed role would a need a prevented night kill  from someone else in the game to truly help us in that department, to get us back on odds and get us a second DP.

My point here is that if scum loses on a chance to get town, it helps town. Mikal's role needs extra help to get us back to odds, but for your role, if you are on the verge of getting mislynched, you can challenge scum and beat them, keeping us at odds and getting scum in the process. Which is why I say your role counts for this.

As for Earth, the idea is that since scum has more numbers, a role like this could help town, with the number disadvantage, especially if he has to survive six mislynches. Seems kinda bastard, and now I'm wondering if we're running out of roles Lunatic wants to experiment with.
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Also my  pm specifies during one night I can play jeopardy and risk it all. I’m assuming he www referring to that. Because I’m gambling the beloved princess role for an item. That action to play takes the night action. 


I’m assuming this was a miscommunication because I never clarified if I could use 2 items and was assuming because of what he said it was 1 action per np
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pretty sure I'm the only vote on Mikal rn. They don't have enough to quick hammer, plus they'd reveal themselves if they do

vote count?
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@Mharman
pretty sure I'm the only vote on Mikal rn. They don't have enough to quick hammer, plus they'd reveal themselves if they do
If two scum + politician vote, with your vote, that would be enough to hammer Mikal.
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3c. I gave out some specific plan mafia may have been going for last DP. What are your thoughts on those?
Could you remind me of that?

lemme go find it

All of your other answers were fair
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@Mharman
So unvote right now.
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@Mharman
I swear if you are town, you're about to throw the game.
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they'd reveal themselves in doing so
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@Mharman
And after killing someone tonight they'd win automatically.
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@Savant
sure, since you're that concerned

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@Savant
oh, do you mean they insta hammer with me + politician + Earth + teammate, and then grab the vote manipulator in the night phase? fair enough my bad