Blame God

There have been numerous debates on the existence of God on DebateArt, both in debate and in forum. I have participated, both by debate and by forum topics. 

For example, if the sentient universe is so smart, why did my house just burn down? A valid question, and what is the typical response relative to blame for the unfortunate event?
Worse, it seems to be about the only time people who believe in a sentient universe need to be reminded that they are supposed to blame the universe for such misfortunes, and not their typical blame-God-game, because, otherwise, they need to remember they have already decided the sentient universe is in charge because, they have also conveniently decided, there is no God. I am personally amused by that reversal of logic so easily entertained that God exists only to be blamed for our misfortune, but not credited for anything.

There is ontological argument that God exists by necessity, but if even that argument settles  justification on a convenience only for blame; that is shameful even for ontology. Ontology is the branch of philosophy which examines existence of entities. Does Earth exist? Do we exist? Does God exist? These are questions answered, among other methods, such as faith, by examining the classification and explanation for things, for entities. One explanation is in the necessity for an entity to exist. But that can be abused, as by considering the necessity only for purposes of blame, which entirely absolves personal responsibility in the equation.  That, I resolve, is entitlement, and nothing more.

Why do children die from cancer?

I praise Lord Shiva!

Om Namah Shivaya

Because they inherit it from careless parents who have sloppy diets and careless health risks? We are what we put in the pie hole, or otherwise consume, and that may cause inheritable mutation, such as cancer, or it is inherited from more distant family cancer risks, or environment.may have a hand in it. No, God is not to blame, nor the universe. Neither are the total cause of anything.

Thats why I am a vegetarian non-smoker non-drinker, and I exercise. You know, in case I reproduce, even tho I dont plan to.

dri                   neset                         urt         er  t'a            pa         maàti

to make  the bark of the sun    great  to sail forth  the  right and truth.

[the last line of Plate XXXVII of  The Spells of Coming Forth by Day [The Egyptian Book of the Dead], pg 242. Resources

You are smart, fauxlaw. 

It is readily apparent in your votes, your debates, and style of reasoning. 

You have gone astray.

God definitely exists. He also definitely allows suffering and watches it happen, fully able to prevent it, choosing not to at times.

Egyptian book of the dead is cool.

Yes, for individual situations, most of which we never hear about, it appears God does not step in to stop human behavior. I do agree that he allows us to make mistakes, most often due to our own poor choices for which we suffer consequences we would rather not endure, and not some cosmic, ethereal force that has no one's best interest at heart. That is exactly how Eden proceeded, but, frankly, I don't see much of a difference, now. We make our own decisions, right or wrong, and suffer/appreciate the consequences. I believe that is what the gift of dominion was all about, and we have no dominion if something g else is the dominator. THus, though God has the power of intervention, such intervention does not teach us nearly as well as does our self-caused suffering. And for our non-self-caused suffering, we earn future blessing in abundance as we endure to its end. That's the promise we have from a God whose love for us is greater than we can ever imagine.

As us Catholics say, everyone is a sinner.

And there is Eve is in eve-ryone...

I totally agree. I thought you would appreciate that reference. Sail on, my friend.

Yes, but only by degree, and we compete with no one but ourselves. But, I like the "everyone" including Eve. However, my respect for her is boundless. Without her, none of us are here. Note that Michaelangelo, placing Adam at arm's length on the Sistene Chapel ceiling, places Eve in God's left shoulder. Her creation was the ultimate creation. And since Christ's atonement took their stain from me - that is my belief - and I am not a sinner due to their transgression, I have no rancor by her choice in Eden.

Not likely. It is pro able he made others after them as 1st gens. It is doubtful he made them, they had 2 sons, then a 3rd hundreda of years later then more as Adam lived to 900 and they continued by centarian incest. especially with Abel killed. It is not a likely timeline.

God clearly made others after A and E.

Also during Noahs Flood, the A and E bloodline clearly got drowned.

I still pray rosary every night. I just cant settle for one religion because I like them all.

If you or anyone can ever accept is that this question of God is a matter of faith.

You either have faith or you don't. There really is no argument that can settle the moot debate that has gone on and on and on .

People believe in arguing that makes the most sense to them. Rationalize and convince themselves what is and isn't the case .

Theists and atheists alike have gone through lengthy dissertations, apologists with the cosmological argument, answered prayer argument, etc.

There is nothing beyond faith unless one experiences revelation of manifestation.

You are meant to do it to 5 Mysteries btw and add a couple prayers, 1 befor 2 after.

I did pray glorious, luminous, sorrowful and joyful mysteries one each day. I just follow the video from Catholic Crusade channel.

Works for now. In Lent we do Sorrowful daily (so on non sorrowful days we actually ha e tot ry to do 2 but it was so mentally difficult for me to do the full ones, I failed a lot) and there are a few other exceptions

Since you wont get the small book with a different variant of this, from now on I recommend to pray this before even the Apostle's creed. Inside this ask Mary for a favour (a holy one not a degenerate or sinful one) whether its with job, farm, anything.

Pray this 9 days in a Row before.

I assume you add the Hail! 

Holy Queen after (before the closing prayer 'O God, whose only-begotten son...')

This prayer before https://www.livefatima.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/PrayerCard_09.pdf

Always at start with inserted line asking for a holy favour.

If you want I can tell you a small cheap book to purchase it gives everything.

If its popular book, it can probably be found online.

No I wont support that.

Nope. What's probable, according to genetic theory, there were not two more separate people, genetically, than were Adam and Eve, and, therefore, the concern of interbreeding of closer relation than 1st cousins for the surety of mutation prevention was a virtual locked outcome, not only for their own children, but likely for more than a hundred generations, at least according to a prominent guy  you may have heard of before, James Watson, who gave a lecture I attended at UCLA in 1966, and covered such material as the forgoing. I met him after the lecture. I was 17. So variant is the human genome, just by natural selective process, the incident of adverse genetic result was, even by Noah's generation, virtually non-existent. Yeah, Darwin, another guy you've likely heard of.

And if God made others after A&E, how do you know you're not descendent of them? So, why do Catholics blame A&E even considering the atonement of Christ? Why did that leave outa A&E. Because it didn't. The atonement is infinite in its scope, so long as we repent of our indiscretions. Therefore, I do not and cannot judge Adam &. Eve.

So, Noah. He, survivor of the flood, along with his family, which apparently included daughters, and at least wives of his sons, was still alive to be blessed by the Ancient of Days [Adam] as a child. A  direct descendent of the A&E bloodline, by the way, so it was not lost, but carried on through his three sons;  issue of Noah's beloved wife.

So, I've heard it from the horse's mouth, so to speak, live and in person. James Watson, whose lecture blew me away, let alone revealing the forgoing. You? Who's your source?

I entirely agree with your statement on faith. I even think a personal manifestation from God, himself, is generated first by an expression of faith and a desire to knows what is currently unknown, contingent on our necessity of having that knowledge revealed. I do not think it happens just out of the blue, and particularly not if we're asking for additional knowledge just to have proof God exists. I think he is camera shy.

Right... Whatever you say.

LDS are polytheists btw.

polytheists. Yes, that is a fact. Our heavenly father was, himself, mortal, like us, and has grown in the process of eternal progression, and has a godly father, and that such relationships exist into the infinite past and into the infinite future. Though I acknowledge all of them, not knowing who they are, by name or title, other than "God," which is just a title, I do not overtly worship any of them but my own father of my spirit, like my dad is father of my physical body. Therefore, I accept that I have a mother in heaven, a goddess, a helpmeet for my heavenly dad.

Who is the mother, Mary?

No, not Mary. She is the mother of the physical body of Christ,  who is not God, the Father, but his son in the flesh.  I do not know the name of my mother in heaven, but look forward to meeting her. I have an intuition that part of our physical genome has contribution from our spirit parents, and that, as spirits prior to mortal life on Earth, we mutually participated in choosing our mortal parents and children, all of us being actual brothers and sisters as spirit children of God, and the mother[s] of our spirits. Polygamy in heaven? When dealing, literally, with billions upon billions, maybe trillions of children, that seems practical to me.