The Hindus knew the Christian God but got Demonically led astray.

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They have a trinity but it is 3 from.the Brahman essence at God level. The trinity is Brahma, Visnu/Vishnu and Siva/Shiva.

The issue is Shiva is actually the devil of the Hindu faith, masked as a god.

The pitchfork, the relentless lust for destruction, Shiva is either representing Satan or is representing Father when angry. However, there is a bigger clue here, Siva/Shiva has 3 prongs to his pitchfork.



The literal Hindu symbol has a 3 in it.



The Hindus did not know that symbol meant 3. God knew. Holy Spirit slipped it in.

Either this supports Islam or it supports Christianity. It either means the Iblis and Jinn (as agents of Shaitan at the times if influence) influenced Hinduism alone if Islam is true or that Christianity's triune truth seeped in.

There is more, indeed much more. I think Hindus actually channel Satan with their chants etc. idk what to do about it. 
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Their values even align with Catholicism strongly except on vegetarianism.
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Oooooo. This is a very interesting thread, this is right up my ally. 

Could I debate you on this? You can define the resolution, the terms and rules for the subject. 


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Not now I am busier irl than before, for a while. I don't know how to formerly debate this against soneone who will obviously spam 'prove it'.
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There's something that doesn't add up about the history or beliefs though.

Historians claim that Hinduism predates Christianity by many centuries, and hinduism is polytheistic. 

And if Jesus is God in the flesh, then is Krishna meant to be a parallel since he is an incarnation of Vishnu?
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The problem is that there were many random religions there. The Ganesha Pagans worshipped the elephant God regardless. It was the Vishnu worshippers that pushed the Vedas. Shiva worshippers only took on Vedas later. As for Brahma, in a way Buddhism is linked to Brahma indirectly. Brahama Kumaris are a sort of cultish sect where they have/had the equivalent of a Pope but their take is the gods of Hinduism are largely make believe and Shiva is the most important while they prefer to skip through to Brahman itself. They think Shiva is a renwer nit destroyer.

Hindus reject them as a valid sect. Think of how JW or LDS are vs Christians that is akin to Brahmakumaris vs Hindus.

Eventually when Portuguese and Dutch showed up and tried but overall failed to rule India, they began to push Christianity more, it already was known of in the very North of India from long ago and likely influenced how Sikhism formed, as did Islam.

Hinduism stems from a nickname Persians gave the indians; Indus. Everything Indian was dubbed Indo-X or Indu. so Hinduism became how the Dutch and later Brits dubbed all the collective religions of India. They then noticed there was a trinity in it and that they could unify India under it but the Dutch had already noticed it and got the ball rolling. I am not clear what the Portuguese did. Portuguese focused more on Cath stuff and it is why South India has Catholicism a lot stronger than the rest of India because Portuguese aimed South and also at Sri Lanka which they named Ceylon first. This is also why South Indian Jindus who focus far more on Shiva, do not care as much about Vedas. They began to welcome in Christianity and Islam and prioritised peace over conflict much faster than the rest of India. They basically valued racial/ethnic-physical unity over religious unity (this was typical of South Asians and they were rigged lower on the Caste system and needed to unite as a people ignoring religion to climb up the ladder, it is also why they are not nearly as much into Bollywood or creative ventures, they learned to be disciplined doctors, engineers etc as it became either that or being a road sweeper, or something else and a life of severe poverty).

The reality is by far disproportionately the Vishnu worshippers and their Vedas are what actually formed modern Hindu theology. This is why only 44% of Hindus are vegetarian as not all shared that ideology and Shiva worshippers who see destruction as beautiful least of all cared to be vegetarians. The Brahma Kumari movement is also primarily among Saivist (shiva worshipper) heavy areas as a coubter-take on Shiva. They see Shiva not as a destroyer but a renewer and father.


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Namah Shivaya

Adoration to Lord Shiva!


Repeat this almost entire day in your thoughts.
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The trinity is Brahma, Visnu/Vishnu and Siva/Shiva
Trinity in a sense that each created the other there.

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Perhaps the Christians knew the Hindu GODS and got demonically led astray.

Or perhaps all religion is just superstitious bollocks.

I'm inclined to think the latter.
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I agree the latter makes more sense to your worldview than the former. I have many arguments against the former.
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Wrong. Brahman emerged as all 3 according to them.
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Trinity is three things, like plum crumble and custard.

Thing is though, you could always just have plums and custard, or add a scoop of ice cream.

Same with a holy trinity,  you could also have just a twosome or even a foursome.

The holy daughter for example...Though back in the day Middle Eastern folk were a tad misogynistic...Some still are.
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Wrong. Brahman emerged as all 3 according to them
Brahman is 3 Gods.

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No. Brahman is the essense of all the gods in Hindu theology whicb is false.
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Brahman is the essense of all the gods in Hindu theology whicb is false
Brahman is all Gods.

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According to Hindu logic Brahman would even be the essence of you and me making it defunct.
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According to Hindu logic Brahman would even be the essence of you and me making it defunct
If you go by some specific teachings, everyone is part of the will of Gods. Now there are those who believe in free will who say that something can happen which is outside God's will. I cant really claim to know what is true there, but I consider everything as God's pure will.
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Not the same.

In Hinduism we are all inside of god not just of a Will. For Hindus we are the fruition of will of god-essence roleplaying as different characters.

They are wrong.