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Sounds like ADOL is probably not less qualified than whoever else is working on this, so you're needlessly selling yourselves one man short. Hopefully this project goes well despite that.
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@Swagnarok
I am super ambitious about the site's success.
But if that means depending on Liberty, or relying on his qualifications to help? Perhaps it's better to just let the site crash and burn.
But if that means depending on Liberty, or relying on his qualifications to help? Perhaps it's better to just let the site crash and burn.
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@Swagnarok
Sounds like ADOL is probably not less qualified than whoever else is working on this, so you're needlessly selling yourselves one man short.
You assume that Lancelot speaks for them all without confirmation?
I would bet he said that without consultation just to put the others in a corner.
It would never have been easy for me to contribute given my security needs, so it's not so great of a loss.
Hopefully this project goes well anyway.
It seems like certain people are experiencing a burst of motivation (an inspiration) to do this, but it's still a 1.5 months to the deadline. I think more planning will reveal the fault lines in the vision early, and despite it feeling like a loss of momentum that is a good thing.
When you get people hyped by being vague, even unintentionally, and they put in work; and then become disillusioned... that gets very ugly.
The technical challenge is only one aspect, and a dependent one. Making a drop in replacement for this site is pretty straightforward (as far as plans go, implementing would still be a lot of work).
Is that really what they want though? Have they agreed or are they assuming they'll work it out later?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It would never have been easy for me to contribute given my security needs, so it's not so great of a loss.
What do you mean? Are you not an American?
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@David
Not sure that a pseudo-Trumpian, born again evangelist as moderator, is particularly conducive to the necessities of moderation.
I think that the clue is in the word MODERATE.
But hey, lets wait and see.
There are always other places to go, and other things to do.
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@zedvictor4
Not sure that a pseudo-Trumpian, born again evangelist as moderator, is particularly conducive to the necessities of moderation.
You can criticize Adaptable all you want. Your opinion does not matter.
These attacks on his character are not objective criticisms at all, these are your own personal feelings of bitterness.
As it currently stands, anyone is welcome to participate. David and everyone else in the server are the people calling the shots.
But it was mutually decided by Adaptable, David, and myself that ADreamOfLiberty will remain excluded from participating.
This is not personal in anyway. Moving forward, we have to do and guarantee what is in our best interests and the good of the site.
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@Swagnarok
It would never have been easy for me to contribute given my security needs, so it's not so great of a loss.What do you mean? Are you not an American?
I have always kept this user name behind a fully anonymous shield.
That's a ten year pattern that I'm not going to break. It means, for example I can't just join a discord channel or do much of anything else without a lot of preparation and attention to detail.
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@zedvictor4
Not sure that a pseudo-Trumpian, born again evangelist as moderator, is particularly conducive to the necessities of moderation.
...with a history of paranoid rants and attempted witch hunts...
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@Sir.Lancelot
I neither criticise the person nor their ideology...They are perfectly entitled to freedom of thought.
I simply question their ability to MODERATE, given their current state of mind.
And if you are a MODERATOR, the above example of moderation was a tad immoderate to say the least.
And if a long standing site member's opinion does not matter, then things have already taken a dramatic downturn.
AdaptableRat and Sir.Lancelot calling the shots together huh.
I expect failure, and I think it would be deserved.
You can criticize Adaptable all you want. Your opinion does not matter.
Opinion of dissenters do not matter.
these are your own personal feelings of bitterness.
Confidently assume the psychology of others and then dismiss it.
vs
The obviously suspect claim of objectivity
This is not personal in anyway.
This is the foundation of a debate site?
No, this is the beginning of a wretched waste of time and hope.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Well I perhaps tried to be a slightly more diplomatic.
But the guy does have a certain propensity.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I'm happy to disappoint you.
I'm happy to disappoint you.
In the unlikely event we meet somewhere on the internet after you're done sabotaging David, and you've been kicked to the curb or the website failed, I will never stop laughing and pointing.
You are so bad at this you've not only already convinced me not to help (if you are within a 100 km of the discussion), you also convinced me not to move to this new site (provided you have any input in its rules or moderation in anyway), debateart doesn't have that many people to send you know.
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@zedvictor4
I neither criticise the person nor their ideology...They are perfectly entitled to freedom of thought.I simply question their ability to MODERATE, given their current state of mind.And if you are a MODERATOR, the above example of moderation was a tad immoderate to say the least.And if a long standing site member's opinion does not matter, then things have already taken a dramatic downturn.
I apologize for my original statement. You certainly have a point in that, I concede that you win this exchange.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
In the unlikely event we meet somewhere on the internet after you're done sabotaging David, and you've been kicked to the curb or the website failed, I will never stop laughing and pointing.
Perhaps.
But if everything goes successfully and according to plan, you won't even exist here on this website anymore. But that may never come true, so don't worry.
I don't know about anyone else, but it would take extraordinary evidence to make me believe this isn't fake. i.e. a sociopathic calculation to cover up your true attitude.I apologize for my original statement. You certainly have a point in that, I concede that you win this exchange.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Thank you.
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@Sir.Lancelot
But it was mutually decided by Adaptable, David, and myself that ADreamOfLiberty will remain excluded from participating.
Rude.
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@Sir.Lancelot
It is personal though. From my perspective it was personal. I am happy he refused to join the server.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
We largely need a new userbase and most of those members wont stand for what the few troublemakers here are largely doing. It is the consistent toxicity and over the top hate speech. We even had FC basically doing gore raps. We must clean all of it up.
Idk if I even am a mod yet. I will keep private matters private but let me tell you I am only in the development chat for the new site, not the mod one.
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@zedvictor4
To be fair at this exact moment I am unsure if I actually am defined as the level of mod David says in the first post.
It seems David wanted me faster than others. That is fine. Honestly he announced it fast too and I respect his eagerness. I shall accept the pace I am permitted. I have not been allowed into the mod chat yet, only a development chat for the new site.
@AdaptableRatman
Catholic prayer brought us both success. You finally becoming moderator, and me getting popular on YouTube. If this isnt proof that prayer works, I dont know what is.
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@TheGreatSunGod
I am telling you it doesn't count how you are doing it when you then betray God for Shiva etc. I am not dragging that into this thread but you and I are not both living out Catholicism.
I am trying to. You are doing some hybrid thing where you do Rosary but not anything else amd pray even to Shiva on top...
You are doing some hybrid tjing where you do Rosary but not anything else
What else is there? I cant go to Church, everyone around me would hate me even more then.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Even if you went, while good works matter not faith alone, your faith rn is all over the place.
Bill Gates, drop a donation.
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@AdaptableRatman
We largely need a new userbase and most of those members wont stand for what the few troublemakers here are largely doing.
What are they doing?
It is the consistent toxicity and over the top hate speech.
Is it consistent? Aside from your friend FishChaser, I have not seen any displays of hate speech.
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@yachilviveyachali
Remybrown is regularly, Wylted too.
Shila was a blatant case.