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You said all furries are lgbtq. I think the hetero ones just hide it easier and keep it for private roleplay.
I said they identify with the movement.

The movement != homosexuals and bisexual 'the category'.

They are like 3/4 bisexual or homosexual, but the heterosexuals still identify with the movement because cults are comfortable (you would know all about that).

I am bisexual but I do not identify with the movement. I don't put rainbows up around my house. I don't go to pride parades or respect pride parades. Most importantly I think that the movement has left a legitimate cause far behind and is now fully in the racket phase.


Also as I just explained furries do not "think they are animals", they identify with an animal, and then create a fantasy creature their 'fursona' which they role play with.

The fantasy creature isn't a human or a non-human, it's an avatar of the abstraction and he or she can be very homosexual because its freaking made up.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
A “furry” is something that many of the respectable do not know the meaning of. You are a man who wants to penetrate animals, whom you cannot procreate with, and this is why you fixate on the pagan gods who had animal features. 

I told you the reason Anubis had a jackal head, yet you ignore. Understand that the reason was not because the male pagans wanted to put it in him. It was spiritual. That said, all the pagans were confused and led astray by evil. The Greeks worshipped gods obsessed with sex and consumed with jealousy. It is not important to the ordinary man. The furries are not important to the intelligent man.

Humans are animals. Generally when they pretend to be another species I find that less attractive and more cringe the farther they take it.
Humans are the second-highest creation. They have sex with other humans; they produce offspring with other humans.

I disagree with all types of promiscuity. I assume you would not want to marry the animal you desire? They are numerous animals that you do not intend to settle down with? It is a deviant behavior, worse than other deviant behaviors (apart from pedophilia), yet still driven by lust and sex to the same degree.

and Adam choose to turn them down as companions, look how that turned out :)
Satan would have tempted Adam with or without Eve. Her silliness made it happen sooner, but the human was meant to fall prey to Satan.
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Satan would have tempted Adam with or without Eve. Her silliness made it happen sooner, but the human was meant to fall prey to Satan. 
I am not sure you have spoken much with your Catholic boyfriend/husband. The 'meant to' part and 'with or without' certainty are some severe heresy.
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A “furry” is something that many of the respectable do not know the meaning of.
Pride in the unchosen is not appropriate, nor is pride in ignorance.


You are a man who wants to penetrate animals
You presume.


whom you cannot procreate with
Really? All this time I wondered why I didn't have any kids yet.


and this is why you fixate on the pagan gods who had animal features
I said human animal hybrids are ancient, sometimes worshiped as gods, I proved it; then you say I am "fixated". This accusation is absurd.


I told you the reason Anubis had a jackal head, yet you ignore.
Acknowledge as consistent with my thesis != ignore.


Understand that the reason was not because the male pagans wanted to put it in him. It was spiritual.
They didn't put a jackal head on a human body because they saw one of those guys in the next town over. It was symbolic.

The symbolic and the spiritual feed into each other.

Outside of sexually repressed religions, the spiritual and the sexual often feed into each other as well. Which is not to say they wanted to put it in Anubis; he's a god to them, but if you were informed on the subject you would find their religion has far more sexual themes than you seem to assume. They put their imaginary human animal hybrids in plenty of sexual situations in the myths and weren't afraid of sex mixing with their divinity:



It is not important to the ordinary man.
I'd say the polytheistic gods have as much to do with ordinary man as the monotheistic one.

Projections of different aspects of man.


The furries are not important to the intelligent man.
Yes yes have fun transcending it all, your chariot to heaven awaits!


Humans are the second-highest creation.
After cheesecake of course.


They have sex with other humans; they produce offspring with other humans.
More novel insight, somebody take notes.


I disagree with all types of promiscuity. I assume you would not want to marry the animal you desire? They are numerous animals that you do not intend to settle down with?
rofl, I recently saw a joke along these lines:

When you act out satire, you should be worried.

"Ooohh it's a hot one, God does not forbid banging the dogo if thou art bound by holy matrimony"


yet still driven by lust and sex to the same degree.
Sexual desire is driven by lust and sex.

That's it then, we have the complete story. Let's recap:
Sexual orientation is about sex
Different species cannot reproduce
The same species can reproduce

Just give us the freaking nobel prize already!


and Adam choose to turn them down as companions, look how that turned out :)
Satan would have tempted Adam with or without Eve. Her silliness made it happen sooner, but the human was meant to fall prey to Satan.
Right, so if Adam had chosen a dog, the snake would have had to go straight for Adam.

I guess the only correct answer was a honey badger. They don't give a shit. A honey badger helpmate would have chewed up satan's body so many times he would have eventually given up.



Satan would have tempted Adam with or without Eve. Her silliness made it happen sooner, but the human was meant to fall prey to Satan. 
I am not sure you have spoken much with your Catholic boyfriend/husband. The 'meant to' part and 'with or without' certainty are some severe heresy.
NAYYYYY! IT IS HERESY!

Oh that's what you said.

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@AdaptableRatman
The Book of Isaiah says: “Remember the former things long past, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like me, declaring the end from the beginning. And from ancient times things which have not been done, saying ‘my purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all my good pleasure.”

God is omniscient. The Catholics know this. They believe God knew the human would sin. 

Pope John Paul II said: “Heresy is the obstinate denial or doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith.”

I am not sure you have spoken much with your Catholic boyfriend/husband.
I will speak with him about this particular matter after Mass. His family is Catholic; thus, he has always been Catholic. He can speak Latin. He may not be your kind of Catholic, as he is an ardent supporter of the Crusades. The Reconquista, and crusades in Europe and Middle East, are seen as great feats by him. For Christianity, they were. Of course, it is unfortunate they did not keep the parts of the Middle East, including the Holy Land, they had gained.

He also believes divorced couples should not be given Eucharist, is strongly against homosexuality (he believes it to be abhorrent), and has great respect for the priests. Although he felt Pope Francis was too liberal, and criticized him, he was still saddened by the death of a pope. 

Considering he has been Catholic for 45 years and had devout Catholic parents, I will assume he knows more on what I have said.
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How many christians does it take to make a schism about 'the perfect word of god'?

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I am not as liberal as you think and I respect priests... I don't quite know what to tell you but if he believes God predestiend the original sin he is a Calvinist which is 100% incompatible with Catholicism more than any other protestant reform split.
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@yachilviveyachali
Catholics literally reject the idea God damns or predestines sin. It is in our Catechism. Your boyfriend is the heretic.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Much of what you have said is troll-like nonsense. I will respond to the less nonsensical point. 

How old are you? You say “rofl”...are you a child? How do you expect me to take you seriously? 

"Ooohh it's a hot one, God does not forbid banging the dogo if thou art bound by holy matrimony"
It was meant to drive home the point that all deviancy and lusting is wrong. I am sorry you did not understand this.

I am afraid this is the only thing you have written I see fit to comment on. The rest only brings about a feeling of indifference and disinterest.
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Similarly, when ones identity primarily revolves around religion, things also get awkward.

We could say exactly the same about any other obsession.


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How old are you? You say “rofl”...are you a child?
There are 40 year olds who were children when that was a thing.

The first known use of the term ROFL on the internet was during a conversation on Usenet, one of the oldest forums on the web. The conversation took place in 1989

The real question is what rock you've been hiding under.



How do you expect me to take you seriously?
The only thing I care about taking seriously in online communications is the truth, and the only way to the truth is through logic and evidence.

Which explains the kind of people I take seriously: I take people seriously when they take logic and evidence seriously. In other words people who love the truth.

People I don't take seriously, I don't care if they take me seriously.

I don't care if you take me seriously.


It was meant to drive home the point that all deviancy and lusting is wrong. I am sorry you did not understand this.
It was mocking the idea of veiling deviancy with a (supposed) sacrament like it would matter.

You talking about promiscuity and marriage in the context of bestiality like it mattered was exactly that.

If you would accept monogamous zoosexual relationships after marriage, do correct me; otherwise you were throwing out a bunch of irrelevancy. Probably tying to fit a square peg through a well worn circular hole in your brain.


I am afraid this is the only thing you have written I see fit to comment on.
I'm crushed.

Rat is correct about catholic doctrine BTW. Free will means choices matter even if god already knows what you will choose. Of course this contradicts many passages such as the "hardening of pharaohs heart". I mean Calvinism didn't come out of a void.

It just isn't a coherent story.
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Catholics literally reject the idea God damns or predestines sin. It is in our Catechism. Your boyfriend is the heretic.
How is he a heretic? What has he said on this matter? I have not yet shared it with you.

God's omniscience is different from damnation that one cannot escape. There is something wrong if you reject that God knows the past, present, and future. Catholics believe that God is all-knowing. It seems you believe that He is not.

God intended man to have free will, and part of having free will is that Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Then, they came to know evil. God told them not to, but was acutely aware of Satan's evil and the possibility that Adam and Eve may eat from it. He still offers salvation. It is up to us whether we choose it. Catholics believe in Hell. God does not grant salvation to all of us, yet will still give us a chance of redemption. None of this means he is not omniscient. I believe God knows whether I will get run over today or not. I have free will; it is my responsibility to either increase or lessen my chances of being run over. God still knows. 
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Free will means choices matter even if god already knows what you will choose.
Where did I claim otherwise?
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If Adam can't choose to not sin, then it isn't sin.

The idea of sin without choice is a contradiction in terms (to quote Rand).
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No they do not.
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I will explain later why you are wrong. For now I will chill. He made randomness in how he generated souls/brains I am certain that is the only way to explain it.
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He made randomness in how he generated souls/brains I am certain that is the only way to explain it.
Heresy. God is not random.

Do proceed in telling me how I am wrong, in particular as it pertains to Catholic belief.
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If God cannot generate randomness, how does he also not predestine sin?
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They only get one month like February. Again, not the longest month.
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I watched your video on homosexuality. Discord got upset by your topic? Well, discord people there are sensitive.
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Why do you think God is random? This is something you have conceived in your own head. It has nothing to do with Catholicism.

God does not damn anyone to Hell, unless there is “a willful turning away from God” and “persistence in it until the end.”

Adam and Eve were not persistent in it until the end. God did punish man, but it is believed they were redeemed. Adam and Eve are venerated as saints in the Catholic Church. At no point have I said that man is forsaken by God or damned by God. You, on the other hand, believe God to be random. How can you accuse others of heresy when this is your belief?
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God does not damn anyone to Hell, unless there is “a willful turning away from God” and “persistence in it until the end.”
Does he randomise their soul and brain partly or predestine all of it?
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They are not official RCC saints but eastern rites tend to say they are.

We believe they got redeemed over time. Remember Adam is said to live to over 900, that is a huge amount of time to get redeemed. We do not definitely canonise them as saints how Eastern Orthodox do.
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Happy pride month now
I'm as proud to be a Whate man as Isiah is to be a black man.  Isiah gets to choose how proud he is to be under the bed, and I'll match his mentality.
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Hey, ADOL's IQ is over 130!
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They are not official RCC saints but eastern rites tend to say they are.

We believe they got redeemed over time. Remember Adam is said to live to over 900, that is a huge amount of time to get redeemed. We do not definitely canonise them as saints how Eastern Orthodox do.
I know this. I did not say they were canonized; I said they are venerated in the Catholic Church.

They were also not damned to Hell.
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Does he randomise their soul and brain partly or predestine all of it?
“Random” isn't a good word to use. In Old French, it means rush, speed, and force. It began to be used in the 14th century in Middle English.

There are only two entities that influence what we do; God, and Satan. The bad comes from the influence of Satan. God made us into beings who are capable of deep thought and reverence for Him. God was with us before Satan; He made us. How can something be random if we always follow God, which He tells us to do? To say it is random is to suggest there is no God, or to suggest that Satan is interfering with us.

God does predestine, but he does not damn to Hell without granting the chance of salvation through Christ. He can know what we are going to do, and we can still have the choice to change what we do. 
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What do you mean only 2? What about all the others? Don't they have any free will?
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God does predestine, but he does not damn to Hell without granting the chance of salvation through Christ
Impossible. Predestining all means he would predestine all that go to Hell.

Calvinism is beyond heresy btw, it is blasphemy to us.