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@AdaptableRatman
Well said.
Is MAGA still pretending they're not an fascist authoritarian movement?
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@Greyparrot
Yes, that was literally all he did.And he did it with wings and a halo while the federal agents wore helmets with demon horns.
Yep, the usual mindless childish dodging response I've come to expect. Why do you bother? Is it really that hard to just say "ok I got that one wrong"? I did yesterday. You can too. I believe in you.
You shove a federal officer, it's game over. Period.
He didn't. You know there's video of this incident right?
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@AdaptableRatman
The leftwing progressive endgame is prolife where each child born doesn't have a financially crippling reason not to be.
It's literally a death cult which is why they are pro abortion, and pro euthanasia and you can't claim the financials because we have studies from the Cato institute that show welfare problems increase poverty on the whole and we also have the economic freedom index to prove economic freedom is a good thing.
I know the claim is that death is better than being poor by the left but neither is it true nor do they offer good policy. It's just a lot easier to sell "I am giving people free shit to help with money" than it is to take the time to understand Austrian economics or studies by the Cato institute and the economic freedom index to show how to actually solve poverty to the extent it is solvable.
The right wing conservative position is to outlaw adultery and force marriages to be lifelong unless there is grounds for annulment
We don't believe this. None of us do without exception.
The Fascists and Communists are differing severe problems at their extremes
Extremist conservatives don't exist. We don't say shit like "let's kill all niggers" while it isn't uncommon to see "let's kill all whites or all police" etc. In left wing rallies
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@Double_R
Where were you in 2024? Did you go on an extended vacation and not pay attention to US election?
Trump is planning, if elected, to implement a historically restrictive US immigration agenda starting in 2025. He promises to carry out the "largest domestic deportation operation in American history," which would require relocating military troops to the US-Mexico border, authorizing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raids of workplaces, denying due process to unauthorized migrants, constructing additional ICE detention facilities along the southern border, and overturning the Flores settlement, which provides protections for migrant children. Importantly, both the military and National Guard would be used to round up and deport unauthorized migrants.
https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/trump-vs-harris-immigration-future-policy-proposals
This seems to be what the American people voted for. Trump won the popular vote.
With regard to unrest in Los Angeles, Trump invoked Title 10 to deploy the National Guard.
The title of this thread is a stupid question. Anyway, like we can't stop pretending we're not fascist until we cancel elections dumb ass.
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@WyIted
The problem of left wing progressivism's abortion ideal that I finally had to come to terms with to truly detach from identifying as/with it is that they simulataneously assert the following:
- It should be made possible to have as much consensual sex as possible no matter what, except situations they deem immoral de facto (such as incest, teacher-student [libs allow this progressives don't, I know the difference I have been with the left long enough to be sure teacher student sex being legal in the adult ages is a prog-lib split in the left] and ofc pedo stuff aa well as bestiality)
- That marriages should be comoletely vanned to be bigamous or polygamous yet anyone wanting to outlaw adultery or polyamory is evil.
- That when as a result of all this sexual immorality, co traception fails or is insufficiently used etc, abortion is simply further contraception.
- That the adult's comfort and career matters more to the nation than the offspring's livelihood meanwhile all other crimes including murder when done to adults are seen as far worse than when done to infants.
Eventually, I realised as my existential crisis gradually began to subside, that Catholicism was always the best legal code to based any social system on. I really mean any. I can be a site like this or the actual nation you live in.
And yes, specifically Catholic because other sects do funny stuff where they enable sexual immorality and bend rules. I also am sure nuns and priests are seen as severely abusive when the abuses the orthos have done with East European sex slavery and human trafficking has been covered up and that protestant abusers never get their faith mentioned in headlines.
Cath societies end up hybrids between progressive and conservative. They end up automatically between there due to them having an accurate moral compass. They also wind up somewhat fascistic but Pope Francis seemed to live in denial of the fact national security and heritage has to be preserved even in Cath values.
It is part of why we were wrong to ever be antisemitic. The Jews have their way to Father, we have ours. I agree with Trump on Israel btw. I am unusual for a Catholic. Israel is the Jews'. Period. Islamic Jihadists have ZERO claim to the holy land. That was ALWAYS the Jewish land and we are fortunate if we are allowed to visit there to see the holiest place on all Earth. That said, I won't be visiting soon and Netanyahu is no doubt a racist sociopath but it is still the Jewish land, period/full-stop.
People who support racial tensions are blinded by ego; my tribe, my race my my me me me.
The real tension is as ancient as the Crusades. Maybe that gets me chucked in prison for knowing is truth.
Look at Sudan. Look at Egypt. Now look at Italy. Look at France. Look at Saudi... Now look at Australia.
If you want to live in Islamic Sharia that is your right if you have money and can get the visa or citizenship. Go ahead. It should not be hate speech to say thank you, please exit my holy Christian nation. Again, I made this about values, not race. Race is some other issue.
Trump would be reformed into shape if I ran things. Let me crystal clear, Trump is not a good Christian at all and yes I am willing to be judged back for the same criterion so I am not violating 'lest ye be judged' He needs to reread his Bible, kneel and obey and repent crying for all his vile comments and sins. None are above the law of the holiest Scripture ever written. Perhaps Jews can justify being loyal to old testament alone.
So you can see Wylted, I am utterly torn politically. To both resent racists and align with devout Christians and patriots leaves me torn, lost.
It is illegal or unwise for me to push any sort of race topic anyway. It is true the white race is shrinking and so are East Asians. That is just a reality. One can choose who they marry and reproduce with to mitigate that but to ban people with correct values migrating in for race makes no sense to me.
Why are Muslims going to have the correct values? Why do I risk prison typing the fact they likely don't? Who really are the good guys? Those bending backwards to Islam being welcomed in?
In fact why would an atheist have the right values? Why is bigotry always wrong? I am a hypocrite given my old views but I also think I was wrong before.
I guess so. Diversity is love. Diversity is life... And may I be arrested by My PM/President if I dare say otherwise 🤐
In the end it is true in our doctrine we are ordered to tolerate sinners. We must let them choose the righteous path. Turn the other cheek and all that.
But what if it is not my cheek being struck but the actual leadership regime and its moral code? Then when is taking the cheek hits wrong?
This is what I noticed even as a left wing progressive; I owed Christian conservatives in my nation for being the most solid, large voting block protecting me from Islam taking over. I was raised so differently, my parents raised me to respect all religions equally. They always refused to know what the Qur'an even says, even most of the Bible tbph.
I was a lost soul and now I am found in the 1 true faith. I understand Islam, I comprehend its logic and I am content with letting those that support it live under Sharia in their Islamic culture separate from the holiest 1 true faith. If that makes me a Fascist, so be it. Wars begin because of this trying to convert the other nation by cunning or force drama. Meanwhile the same ones going oh noooo Gaza couldn't care one iota to go and fight in North Korea and slay the regime leaders and Kim Kong Un and free them all, let alone China and their regime leaders.
So make your mind up. Which is it? Are we warriors trying to free the world of abuse? If yes, let us free it all, world war 3.
If not, don't play favourites with Gaza or even Ukraine. Don't say it is morally driven, admit it is strategic. I see 0 problem with NATO admitting Russia is inferior to us and bending it until Putin is kneeling and cries apologising for all his genocide and lies on worldwide camera, begging a Ukrainian Orthidox Priest to forgive him.
I want all the world turned Christian. I allow Israel as exception because I know God has them as the specially chosen people that inevitably reign powerful, is it not an inevitable fact? I accept it, my God is Jewish after all.
If someone does not want the worls turned Christian then why do they play on our Christian heart strings to defend those that spit on our faith and values?
Love thy enemy yes but also convert thy enemy with how thy loveth him.
Even then if we are taking cues from the left who have canceled elections in Romania, the Ukraine etc and are trying to ban political parties than we might even continue to pretend after we assume control
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@WyIted
Do you admit you are a full blown racist?
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@AdaptableRatman
Do you admit you are a full blown racist?
If I was I would. You can see I don't care if I am seen as one so literally nothing is holding me back from admitting it, if it was true.
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@WyIted
Why don't you admit it?
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@AdaptableRatman
What do you think my beliefs are? Specifically?
Why don't you ask me 3 or 4 questions and ask me?
Or maybe deal with your cognitive dissonance.
"a guy that doesn't mind if everyone thinks he is a full blown racist is saying he isn't. What motivation could he have for this, if he were he wouldn't mind because obviously he doesn't mind being seen this way, so what could be his motive?"
I will ask chat GPT this question and see what he says. To see if it's correct. I assume it will be.
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@WyIted
I don't see you how you think I see you.
You see yourself as a brutally honest shameless proud man.
I see you as a lying weasel that lies and gaslights for a laugh regularly.
So our baseline of how we see you being very different, which was made obvious during the presidential elections, here mean I don't trust you.
And thankfully I picked the PC side when you PM doxxed me to YT that I would punish you severely for if they actually made me head mod instead of some lowly trial mod, until you took it down (and would do for anyone else you did that to).
You are a traitor, backstabber and your word is meaningless, after all you want all that trust you to bleed in the arena. That has always been who you are. You think you are The Hound but you are the Tyrion Lannister or Littlefinger.
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@AdaptableRatman
And thankfully I picked the PC side wheb you PM doxxed
Now you are lying. That's not doxxing . That wasn't the intent obviously and it cannot possibly ever lead to your real identity and we know it won't get you flooded with messages from strangers since I have virtually zero audience.
You see yourself as a brutally honest shameless proud man.
I see you as a lying weasel that lies and gasloghts for a laugh regularly.
Okay. you really shouldn't care about the word of a liar than. Maybe you are filtering your view through some resentment though.
You are a traitor, backstabber and your word is meaningless, after all you want all that trust you tobleed in the arena. That has always veen who you are. You think you are The Hound but you are the Tyrion Lannister or Littlefinger.
My word is meaningless and yet it bothers you? Like you are trying to appeal to some part of yourself that you know is wrong or maybe just curious about something.
I don't think you can say I am a traitor with any confidence. Taking a PM and making a video with it doesn't count. That's actually normal behavior and it's very unhinged to think that is some attempt to reveal your true identity. Your identity is safe batman.
Hold on... Is this because I made the fascist joke? Hell even if ai was serious fascists aren't normally racist LOL.
Safety and Privacy
Barney already made clear he didnt care while I quit the site and asked him to act on this rule.
So, you dont have to worry, the leadership is weak for now.
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@WyIted
No it is due to many things including your thread about blacks and science where you literally lied and said a guy that did a lot more was solely glorified for peanut butter. Its to do with comments you make regularly in Mafia games.
It is the fact you find blackface funny and do it both irl and online to ridicule or make them look back.
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@AdaptableRatman
No it is due to many things including your thread about blacms and science where you literally lied and said a guy that did a lot more was solely glorified for peanut butter. I
Yes they did properly up George Washington carver. I think I said they lied about him inventing peanut butter to indicate one way in which they propped up his myth. And no people claiming a famous inventor is over rated lol does not randomly mean that every person who shares that inventors skin color are randomly bad people
It is the fact you find blackface funny and do it both irl and online to ridicule or make them look back.
That's stupid. It doesn't make white people look bad when Jordan Peele does whiteface for a skit. To think somebody doing a performance and pretending to be somebody they aren't is racist against the group they are imitating is retarded.
Do you consider the movie Mrs. doubtfire an example of sexism by Robin Williams?
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@WyIted
No Carver did a lot more. I replied to your thread with a link proving it weeks ago.
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@WyIted
I think I am a bit sexist so I cannot answer about sexism.
Men and women are blatantly different beings. That doesn't mean the less common woman suited to science should be denied it.
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@AdaptableRatman
They listed like 500 inventions I pointed to the one most quoted. If I remember correctly I used it as an example of how they lie about him. No he didn't invent peanut butter at all.
I think I am a bit sexist so I cannot answer about sexism.
It doesn't make you sexist to realize men and women have different strengths and weaknesses. If you don't see them as inferior and hold a special place for them in your heart than you are fine
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@WyIted
Depends what inferior means if I am brutally honest.
There is a reason a man hitting or even insulting a woman as bad as she does to him is automatically pounced on and disliked by both genders (even severe feminists, did you notice that)?
I learned the hard way in terms of the insult thing and alienation, women are literally more delicate. They are wired differently and I am tired of anyone telling me different. I have met many kinds of women at least online. I have also met more types of men. Women are weaker, more tender etc. emotionally too, not just physically.
I have been effeminate. I still am trying not to be. The reality is, women are not wired to be brutally competitive warriors how men are.
It is a fact. They even tend to want a male to lead them as in they fubdamentally crave it in relationships.
Think hard about this:
- Taller
- Wiser
- Older
- Stronger
- Feels he is someone I respect as a leader and on my worst day is level headed to comfort me even if his own say was sh##
- Guards me while I am pregnant, no matter how tired or upset he is, brings the food home. Protects, provides, leads.
What do all those traits women seek in men they want as life partners imply they feel even about themselves, let alone men?
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@AdaptableRatman
What do all those traits women seek in men they want as life partners imply they feel even about themselves, let alone men?
I think what you are feeling and what a lot of people are feeling is that leadership = superior
Men are stronger naturally so yes they are meant to fight to defend the women they live if it comes to that and a lot of the payment if failure comes from men so they lead the household but my wife has domains she leads in. If she is cooking and yells at me to do something to help her, I jump to it. So the leadership is split a lot just we as a society are kinda sexist so we value the contributions that men are better at giving more.
Equality isnt gained by making women men but with tits, it is obtained by putting what they are best at on a pedastool. Men are stronger not better in fact it is my opinion we are inferior but also stronger etc.
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@fauxlaw
So in just the past week Trump has deployed the US military onto US streetsThat is a generalized statement that fails to comprehend the constitutional powers of the President to deploy both the US Military, a general arm of the Defense Department, and the National Guard, a specific arm of the Defense Department, both potentially under the exclusive control of the U.S. President. First of all, The Posse Comitatus Act generally limits...
I've seen the laws granting the president the power to federalize the national guard and utilize the military on American soil, I find any argument claiming his actions to be legal under these circumstances to be nonsense but I'm far less interested in the legal debate. The fact is that those laws were written for a reason so not only is Trump most certainly in violation of the spirit of the law, he is also violating one of the core ideas of America which is that our government and by extension it's military exists to serve the people. Trump can pretend all day that 105 protesters warrants bringing in 4,000 national guard troops and calling in the US military but to anyone who lives in reality that is utterly ridiculous.
It is irresponsible to accuse the President of arresting Gov. Newsom of CA.
I never accused him of that. I said he endorsed [the idea of] it. Now I did fail to specify that I was talking about the mere idea of it and take responsibility for some of the confusion there but I think that should have been obvious.
No arrest of the Gov has been made to date; you are misidentifying what the President said.
I'm very aware of exactly what he said, and the fact that the political right has said nothing about this but to come to his defense exposes breathtaking hypocrisy.
He said "I think it would be great" and as if that wasn't bad enough, went on to clarity that the reason he thought it would be "great" to arrest the sitting governor is not because he allegedly committed a crime (remember when Trump used to feel like he at least had to pretend?) but because Newsom in his opinion has "done such a bad job".
So let's recap; the president of the United States believes it would be great for his administration to arrest a sitting governor of the opposite party because he believes that governor has done a bad job.
Read that last paragraph as many times as needed to make it stick.
Tell me, since when would you have ever come to the defense of any president who would ever say something like that? Ever?
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@yachilviveyachali
This seems to be what the American people voted for. Trump won the popular vote.
Yes, many people voted for him. And when we told them Trump was a fascist authoritarian they told us we had Trump derangement syndrome.
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@WyIted
The title of this thread is a stupid question. Anyway, like we can't stop pretending we're not fascist until we cancel elections dumb ass.
Whether your movement qualifies as a fascist movement is irrelevant to whether you succeed in cancelling an election genius.
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@Double_R
Whether your movement qualifies as a fascist movement is irrelevant to whether you succeed in cancelling an election genius.
This is why you are low IQ.
Imagine me saying fascist movements have to pretend to not be fascist until they cancel elections and then somebody being enough of a brainlet to say that somehow means I am stating a group isn't fascist.
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@WyIted
Why don't you admit [that you're a racist]?What do you think my beliefs are?
I think the fact that you have openly used the word n*ggers to refer to black people on this site quite recently makes that clear.
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@Double_R
Your load of crap is defeated by a few words from the supreme law of the land: "the right of the people peaceably to assemble." [1A,] No rational person will agree that the current protests in L.A. are 'peacefully assembled.' The President is sworn to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution,[Article II, Section 1, clause 9] and is on the hook to "...guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence." [Article IV]
Get it? I didn't think so. Apparently, you think the Constitution is a cafeteria menu: choose this, ignore that, modify this other thing, all without benefit of amendment. Nope, Doesn't work that way. I adhere to, and have sworn myself to uphold that document in my life. It is not cafeteria fare, my friend.
If that means if the CA Gov violates his own oath to assure the safety of his constiuents, yeah, the President can authorize his arrest. I know you don't get that, but that's on you, because Newsom is sworn to uphold the Constitution, too.