Democrats Call For Slavery, brag About Having Illegals Work For Low Pay And NO BENEFITS,
They're EVIL.
Who will do these jobs? ME. I clean my own toilet. I cook my own food. I mow my own grass. I launder my own clothes.
Are pro-illegal immigration still pretending they don't support slave labor?
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Anyone who works is idiot. Hard work makes you age faster, makes you dirty, dumber, and you make someone else very rich. I see people who worked hard their whole life and died in poverty and misery. They are idiots.
I don't think Gp picks corn.
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@Greyparrot
Democrats Call For Slavery, brag About Having Illegals Work For Low Pay And NO BENEFITS,They're EVIL.
You forgot we kill puppies and kittens and eat babies.
If someone would rather clean toilets for $2 an hour in Los Angeles than live in a ghetto in Santa Fe de Bogota, then offering them this opportunity constitutes a valid private enterprise benefitting both parties. I think Americans should travel to other countries (especially developing ones) more, as many of them do not have any idea what conditions the majority of human population lives in. I certainly have lived in places in which cleaning toilets in Los Angeles sounded like heaven relative to the local experience.
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@Greyparrot
I don't buy into this entirely.
Illegal immigration is not rooted in evil but in the quest for a better life, sometimes escaping places rotting with evil.
I simply cannot make a good border guard or that type of cop/military, ethically it is justifiable to throw them back but I within myself would break emotionally, doing it. I think it is better to assimilate but that is a pipe dream. Assimilation is seen as racist often, integration is not. Many legal immigrants barely integrate, only enough to get money from their job. Assimilation is literally like I want Muslims to swear they will never ever push Sharia etc. I am that type of bigot. Idk how to go about doing that. I also know the one that want it would often lie. So it doesn't really work. Assimilation means literally I support immigrants completely taking on the faith and customs of where they long term immigrate to. I did not used to think this way and have said the opposite irl publicly. I was wrong. I have changed. I have seen the deep flaws and evil that comes from too much faith clash. You end up with no agreement on basic morality and this includes local born atheists in the clash.
South Americans are often Christian though, so idk the American reason for rejection.
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@AdaptableRatman
I just take offense at the whole "who is gonna clean your toilets?" It reeks of the classism that elite Democrats have exploited for personal gain for decades. Normal people really don't give a fuck about who is cleaning their toilets, but these elites are the loudest and most in your face.
I think it is better to assimilate but that is a pipe dream.
The law states that it should be reality. If not for authoritarian presidents ignoring the assimilation laws of a democracy for the sake of lobby dollars.
Don’t talk to me about empathy when you treat immigrants like disposable labor and the democratic laws from Americans like obstacles. That’s not compassion. That’s exploitation with a smile.
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@Greyparrot
That is a lie in reverse. There are less locals in the West willing to do those jobs. It is simply accurate.
What has to change is more humility in 1 respect and more respect to said janitors in another.
Often people of your outlook treat the janitors like dirt. Don't even clean up after yourselves. I want to live among decent humans.
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@AdaptableRatman
In places where they cant get slave labor, the American janitors are pretty well paid.
In places where elite employers can’t exploit a steady flow of under-the-table tax free, low-wage labor, American janitors, landscapers, and low labor service workers are actually paid quite well. Americans get benefits, union protection, and a level of social dignity that comes with legal employment. The whole “who will clean your toilets?” narrative collapses when you realize it’s only treated like a crisis in cities when the system built on exploiting people is threatened. When you remove the exploitation, Americans are more than willing to do so-called “dirty jobs” as long as they’re paid fairly. But nobody wants to talk about fair wages when Americans are involved. The real issue isn’t the work. It’s the class of elites who want exploitable servants without accountability and want cheap labor without social or legal consequences.
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@Greyparrot
I will chalk this up to you never ever having worked as a janitor and being in a higher paying job as well as some crypto geek.
You simply are talking misinformation but believe it is true.
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@AdaptableRatman
Lol, I have though, on a jack-up barge. I got paid 150 dollars a day to mop, scrub showers and toilets, do towels and laundry for the Halliburton contractors out in the oil rigs on the gulf of Mexico, because the coast guard won't let undocumented workers on vessels in the USA.
I hope that educated you a bit.
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@Greyparrot
That is likely not the same. They probably are decent both in self cleanliness and how they treated you.
Try doing it for a local supermarket's washroom.
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@MayCaesar
If someone would rather clean toilets for $2 an hour in Los Angeles than live in a ghetto in Santa Fe de Bogota, then offering them this opportunity constitutes a valid private enterprise benefitting both parties.
Why can they not find jobs in Bogotá? Are we to assume that Colombia does not have business owners or professionals?
I think Americans should travel to other countries (especially developing ones) more, as many of them do not have any idea what conditions the majority of human population lives in. I certainly have lived in places in which cleaning toilets in Los Angeles sounded like heaven relative to the local experience.
What places have you lived in?
I don't think cleaning toilets is good for anyone. We should clean our own toliets. Unless you are trying to save money to establish a business or put yourself through college, you should not be cleaning the toliets of others.
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@AdaptableRatman
That is likely not the same. They probably are decent both in self cleanliness and how they treated you.Try doing it for a local supermarket's washroom.
I don't think you really understand what kind of mess an oil rig creates in a small confined space with double shift rotations and drilling mud. But that's not important anyway.
The point is I would have gotten paid a lot less if there was a way to get illegals to do the work. And I probably wouldn't have been offered the job in the first place as an American.
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@AdaptableRatman
I will chalk this up to you never ever having worked as a janitor and being in a higher paying job as well as some crypto geek.
You should never assume anything about the white man, particularly the conservative white man. He has been to more places and seen more of life than you think.
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@yachilviveyachali
He is not conservative, he is libertarian.
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@yachilviveyachali
I don't think cleaning toilets is good for anyone
It is disgusting, but some people have no any self respect. I have cleaned toilets in prison, but because I had to. I wouldnt willingly clean other people's toilets.
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@AdaptableRatman
They aren't very different to me, except conservatism has a bigger set of balls.
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@LucyStarfire
I would not do it. It is better to be a Scarface than clean toilets.
In prison, you had no choice.
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@Greyparrot
So why do you blame the immigrants instead of the corporations or small business owners?
The difference between us is I am more genuine in my solutions. The solution to that issue is not right wing. You need strong, 'shut up and obey' baton in hand approach to every single business owner to stick to the letter of the law on minimum wage, work conditions etc.
What your crew do is they make all exploitation legal and then cry waaa waaaa oh no oh mommy oh daddy oh the immigrants 😭😭😭😭😭😭😿
Shut up
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@yachilviveyachali
That is not true libertarians get kicked in them and wonder why. Conservatives wear the protective underwear.
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@AdaptableRatman
You need strong, 'shut up and obey' baton in hand approach to every singke business owner to stick to the letter of the law on minimum wage etc.
That's actually happening now.
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@Greyparrot
Good if it is.
Is that not ashame for you libertarians?
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@AdaptableRatman
I'm a moderate libertarian. I am okay sacrificing some liberty for essential security, but not essential liberties for some security. In the spirit of Ben Franklin.
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@LucyStarfire
Anyone who works is idiot. Hard work makes you age faster, makes you dirty, dumber, and you make someone else very rich. I see people who worked hard their whole life and died in poverty and misery. They are idiots.
It about the money not the work. Got rent and other responsibilities. Maybe if I had a trust fund or section 8 I could just not work but even then being poor sucks and monetizing my time seems to be the way.
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@Greyparrot
At least you are smarter in quotes you choose than some of your allies.
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@ultramaximus2
It about the money not the work
Nor self respect.
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@LucyStarfire
Nor self respect.
It is normal to work.
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@ultramaximus2
It is normal to work.
Not in toilets.
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@LucyStarfire
Not in toilets.
Plumbers can make good money.