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The primary thing they dont know is who is rpotective and who isnt. That is vital to hide.
Even if power roles exist scum knows protectives or watcher or something will be on them, so they can't really go after them. Power roles rarely get killed in the night even when they are outed.
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@Savant
I can claim at 7 EDT tomorrow, sure 
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@Casey_Risk
Casey, you and WF keep saying others are pushing the massclaim and claim to usyou arent too.

If you oppose it, vote Savant. Its that binary.
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@Savant
There is no further investigative role than Wylted and me. Thats basically guaranteed. Or Pie, not sure whats going on between them.
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@Savant
To be safe I think we should soft claim justification as I described. Give an allegory or a riddle or something that is obviously tied to justification once you explain it.

No that’s stupid cause it means some people can wiggle out with “garbage justification”
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@Lunatic
Have you said whether you're on board yet? I think everyone else is besides AR, and he already full claimed.
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@ILikePie5
He wants to help his partner get many reads to solocarry later.
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@whiteflame
Are you on board like Savant claims?
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@Lunatic
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No that’s stupid cause it means some people can wiggle out with “garbage justification”
Ok but everyone should be online at  6:45 EST to ensure we are all here to full claim at 7 EST. Claim needs to include character, role, and full justification.
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@AdaptableRatman
If you oppose it, vote Savant. Its that binary.
You keep saying some variation of this. I'm opposed to the massclaim strategy. I'm not voting Savant. It's not binary. The decision is not his or mine alone to make.

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@Casey_Risk
Do you oppose the massclaim, yes or no.
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@whiteflame
Your action here is yours alone to make. You either vote Savant or enable the massclaim.
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Let me ask you guys this. It takes 5 votes to lynch. Me and Wylted are likely town and RM is lean town. This means scum only need 2 votes to hammer Savant. Why haven’t they done so yet?

4 Scenarios from my POV:

1) Savant is scum
2) Scum is inactive (aka Lunatic)
3) RM is scum
4) Scum want to keep Savant alive for possible buddying/towncred
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@AdaptableRatman
He wants to help his partner get many reads to solocarry later.
He has to avoid the CC first
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@ILikePie5
4 Scenarios from my POV:

1) Savant is scum
2) Scum is inactive (aka Lunatic)
3) RM is scum
4) Scum want to keep Savant alive for possible buddying/towncred
Unfortunately that doesn't PoE down at all.
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*doesn't narrow down PoE
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@ILikePie5
CC isnt as likely as you think, the reason is Wylted and me are 2 already weird roles.

This means more normal claims are likely not in the game except vanilla.
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@ILikePie5
1) Savant is scum
2) Scum is inactive (aka Lunatic)
3) RM is scum
4) Scum want to keep Savant alive for possible buddying/towncred
That list of choices basically encompass everyone.
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@ILikePie5
You unvoted Savant a while ago, btw. Thats why they cant hammer in your scenario where Savant is Town and I am too.
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Eh fuck it, no mass claim. I told Wylted my character, role, and justification already. He’s not dying tonight anyways because of the protective role being on him. 

VTL Savant

I’m pretty sure I know what role he is, and if I’m right he’s stupid to hold onto that information because it can help POE
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@ILikePie5
Tyvm.
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@ILikePie5
I’m pretty sure I know what role he is, and if I’m right he’s stupid to hold onto that information because it can help POE
So you think I'm town and want to lynch me for being "stupid"?
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@Savant
So you think I'm town and want to lynch me for being "stupid"?
Assuming you are town, you’re stupid to hold on it because it can be a problem later on for POE purposes.
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By the way ultra is Town.

I townread Ultra over Mikal now.
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@ILikePie5
I’m pretty sure I know what role he is, and if I’m right he’s stupid to hold onto that information because it can help POE
How do you know what role he is?
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VOTE COUNT

Savant (3/5) - Ratman, Wylted, Pie
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When did Savant unvote me
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@Casey_Risk
How do you know what role he is?
I don’t. I’m guessing. Either way, I’m not rewarding a non-compliant player. It sets a bad precedent. And if he’s going to continue doing this, I’m not going to play if he’s playing. It’s anti-town.
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@Ultracrepidarian
It is in our best interest to vote Savant here.

I know you genuinely support massclaim, this isnobvious as you literally part claimed.

It is unwise to reveal anything more to the Mafia.

Savant has behaved in every single way like an opportunist scumsided player.
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Savant WF makes so much sense.