Skyrim Mafia Day 1

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Mikal is the only person who knows the theme, so I'm willing to give him some trust here. 
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@Earth
Why do you keep posting that savant is voting Mikal
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@Ultracrepidarian
I thought Whiteflame knows it too.

I don't see remotely why knowing theme more is a good reason to keep the mafia around.

It makes them far more dangerous to keep around. Mikal if scum now got a lot of info on everyone from the letters alone.

Also if Mikal knows about a game usually Lunatic does too.
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Vtl AR

Believe this is my first game with AR but they seem really aggressive and over confident. Is this normal for them? 
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If we're going to mass claim we need to do it quickly. Anybody else appose mass claiming? 
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@Ultracrepidarian
I am confident and would say this is not me at my most aggressive.
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@Ultracrepidarian
You need to go back over a year ago and look at games with rationalmadman in them.

I was even more aggressive then.
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@Ultracrepidarian
I calmly answered your question and you said I am arrogant and aggressive.
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@Lunatic
I'd do that to AR, because he is a cuck, but everyone else is basically deserving of respect. 
Lol if we were in survival island mode youd see how uncuck I am.
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@Earth
Did you give fake claims?
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I wasnt in the game, banana replaced me. Lol
Fair enough. That was more frustration aimed at the people lynching me day 1, because you're not the first person to go after me for those reasons.
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If he didn’t give fake claims. I want a mass claim. And preferably quickly. Will need everyone to consent and all post at the exact same time 


I have a suspicion it’s going to be obvious. If he gave fake claims then disregard this 
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Link to this 
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Disregard I see it 
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@whiteflame
Savant hasn't played as logically as he has the last couple of games, though I chalk that up to frustration over last game and uncertainty regarding his recent change-up to his strategy. It's different, sure, but it doesn't come off as scummy.
I agree that the frustration reads as genuine, but I could see him avoiding doing the percentage thing as scum largely because it would be hard to fake. I feel like it would require more effort as scum.
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but I could see him avoiding doing the percentage thing as scum largely because it would be hard to fake. I feel like it would require more effort as scum.
Before this game started me and Pie said on the phone that he can't keep that up if he is scum and that we should probably just lynch him the second he abandons that just to be safe
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@Mikal
Personally, I'm against mass claiming in general. I think that on balance, it helps scum more than town. The one game where I remember the town trying it, this turned out to be the case, as scum ended up winning.
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it would require more effort as scum
It requires the same amount of effort, actually less as scum since I can just make things up. I don't know why it was ever a town tell, but I wasn't going to complain. Plus if I ever planned on using it again, I would have to keep it up as scum.

Also I literally got lynched while doing the percentages thing so what do people even want??
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Typically I would agree but I think we can solve this for a reason I don’t want to disclose yet as it will add to their ability to fake claim. 
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Also I literally got lynched while doing the percentages thing so what do people even want??
I mean, the main reason you got lynched day 1 in the last game is largely due to several people claiming a protective role. You and Mharman just came off as more sus behaviorally I guess. I don't think the percentages really had anything to do with it. I also disagree that you could just make stuff up. I mean you COULD, but that would generally be pretty obvious. Faking a convincing thought process as scum is generally pretty hard. 
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@Mikal
If the rest of the town agrees with massclaiming, I won't fight democracy. Just be sure you aren't doing more harm than good.
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Anyway, I'm about to leave for work. I'll be low activity today, but I'll chime in when I can.
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Three pm Eastern time? 
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Savant was not lynched for behavioral reasons last game honestly. It helped confirm mharman and was practical for a few more reasons. 
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We need everyone to confirm 
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@Mikal
I am very open to massclaims if the setup suits it.

I am certain it hurts us more than it hurts mafia.
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I oppose masclaiming dp1 m9re here.

If anyone demands Casey to fullclaim I will bandwagon you with Casey.
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@Mikal
Earth did not give fakeclaims.

He specified it and I stated I upvoted his signups OP for that reason.
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@Savant
Take this as a 'threat' if you want to make you cave in, if it suits you.

Vote someone inside my scumpile and I will be open to a vote that is not you.

Justify it too.

Vote me more and I will 1v1 to the bitter end. That is the truth.
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@Casey_Risk
I agree that the frustration reads as genuine, but I could see him avoiding doing the percentage thing as scum largely because it would be hard to fake. I feel like it would require more effort as scum.
Considering how inaccurate his percentage reads have been in previous games (he spent much of the Game Show Mafia game scumreading me), I don't think these would be hard to fake at all. If anything, all he'd need is the right slant and plenty of posts he'd claim to use to "back up" his views. I get that it's a lot of effort, but that effort can be put to legitimate and illegitimate use with relatively similar investment.