Skyrim Mafia Day 1

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I edited Nobody, not 1 person ever, from Nobody. Not 1 person ever.

I forgot it was a banned thing.
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@Savant
Multiple posts to respond to, not quite enough time. I will address this first:

Or maybe it's Casey, who has been online but isn't really engaging in the conversation beyond very slight pressure a few pages ago.
In all fairness, I have been very clear about the fact that I've been busy due to working a lot of overtime and only barely have time for mafia. This is something I've been saying for the past few games in a row; I'm verifiably not making this up. And I will admit, I did think that your stubborn refusal to comply was scummy at first, but now that I think about it more, I don't think you'd self-sabotage like this as scum unless there was a clear benefit to your partner, and I just can't see how that'd be true in this instance. So I will

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@WyIted
Do NOT UNVOTE HIM

Trust me. We stick on this, dont waiver.
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@AdaptableRatman
I actually edited a post a few games ago before remembering that it was against the rules. Somehow, it just totally slipped my mind. (It was something innocuous) No one caught it though, so I got away scot free. Up until my confession right now, anyway. 
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@Casey_Risk
Yeah the update made it so but I predict users like WF can see it as in site mods.
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@AdaptableRatman
I get that you’re frustrated with him refusing to claim, though he made clear that he wasn’t going to do that under pressure. He’s hardly the first and won’t be the last. If that was part of a pattern of behavior he was trying to blend in or at least not stand out from past play, I would probably have voted him already, but I’d have to believe that he drew attention to himself as scum by changing up his style substantially, then essentially dared us to lynch him. I just don’t buy that view. It’s possible, but not the most likely explanation.

I take him stalling as him needing time to fake. Therefore no matter what he claims now I stick to it.
So he’s scum, he’s had almost 24 hours to come up with a fake claim, but hasn’t quite managed it yet and is daring us to lynch him just to gather some more time to… decide to claim all of a sudden? If he does suddenly relent, he still has to somehow avoid getting CC’d, which isn’t going to get any easier without more claims ahead of him. It would also come off as pretty scummy after being this intransigent.
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@Casey_Risk
Unvoting is an error.

There is 0 gain here. Ignore Mikal entirely.

Vote Savant. Leave it. I am not shifting it to you even if he does and Wylted is with me.
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@whiteflame
You asked me why I 1v1.

I answered.

I refuse to read past 3 sentences i to your post there until dp2.
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How would we go about mass claiming if we did. It would be fair to have savant lead the claim right and then popcorn?
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@WyIted
Pick a set time and everyone posts at the same time. If you don’t, you get lynched. 

Stops staggering claims and outright catches people 
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@Mikal
Is that something that can even be coordinated? I am down if we can coordinate it but that's easy for me to say since my claim is out there. We all seem to be on around 8pm Easter from what it seems
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Prob would have to set it for tomorrow or Late tonight once Luna is up. 

Do we all agree ?
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VOTE COUNT

Ratman (2/5) - Savant, Ultra
Savant (2/5) - Ratman, Wylted, 

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@Mikal
I have an idea for soft claiming. You have to give the justification for your role without revealing what your role or character is. For example if someone was the doctor because their character is Bob and Bob does surgery, you could say, "My character does a job with pointy tools that makes people smile." Then it's really hard to backtrack and make your claim something else.
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@Savant
At that point we should just full claim me thinks 
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At that point we should just full claim me thinks
No because this way it doesn't require us to all coordinate posting at the same time. We all softclaim our justification, locking us in, then we all full claim.
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@Mikal
Sry, forgot to tag.
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@Savant
It’s still the same as full claiming I think. It’s to easy to read. I think the way we catch people out is do it all at once. No room for anyone to figure things out. 
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I still don't like the idea of mass claiming, but if it's what everyone else wants, I will reluctantly accept. I think I might prefer Savant's idea however, simply because time coordination can be a bear. I know we've tried it once before and it went awful. 
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@Mikal
It’s still the same as full claiming I think. It’s to easy to read.
Well then you just do as well as you can to make it hard to read while also being near impossible to backtrack. Pretty difficult but maybe doable.
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@Earth
Time check?
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I can't imagine coordination ever working. I'm in favor of Savant's idea. 
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Could we all claim at 6PM EST on the dot tomorrow? I feel like that's enough time to get agreement from everyone.
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@Ultracrepidarian
Ok, but I do think we should softclaim and then full claim within a pretty short window.
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Like who else is online right now? Are all of you here to give softclaims quickly?
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I’m fine with 6 pm cst tomorrow 
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@Mikal
I’m fine with 6 pm cst tomorrow 
So 6pm cst/7pm est?
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@Casey_Risk
I still don't like the idea of mass claiming, but if it's what everyone else wants, I will reluctantly accept. I think I might prefer Savant's idea however, simply because time coordination can be a bear. I know we've tried it once before and it went awful. 
Vote Savant.

Stay voting him.

Ignore everybody else. Even if they push you to claim. If they force you to claim but let Savant get away with nit claiming they are hypicrites and deserve to lose. Eveb at E-1 you do not claim because they support that.

I will stay voting Savant. Wylted is likely to stay voting Savant despite rethinking the massclaim.
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@whiteflame
If you oppose massclaiming, vote Savant. It is one or the other.