Also I do hope the game we're co-hosting is still on, I mean I won't be playing in that one.
if you’re going to be anti-town and basically throw in doing so
Not anti-town. Some claims would get be lynched even if I'm town,
and sometimes I have power roles.
If I always refuse to claim, town is better off in those games.
I can.
Not anti-town. Some claims would get be lynched even if I'm town,And that helps POE for other townies
Correct and you will be confirmed.
And when you’re scum? What then? What is town supposed to do?
I said I can imagine a player not claiming as scum there.
Well if town is gonna lynch me anyway it doesn't matter if I claim, they'll see my full PM the next day.
And then killed at night w/ the power role. But if I always refuse to claim I won't always get lynched for it and can use the power role.
Why would I want to help the town when I'm scum?Mikal has literally said he uses the same strategy and apparently wins a lot with it. So it's not anti-town to use except when I'm scum, in which case I want the town to lose.
When you brought up Christ and Martyrdom it did become personal
I fail to see what’s wrong with that in literally a team game. Take one for the team.
So every townie has to believe you’re scum. And therefore should lynch you.
Lynch me if you want. That's me taking one for the team.
No, they'll believe that I could be anything including a power role. Which means that using this strategy all the time is playing to maximize my win rate, literally the point of the game.
Odd that it's always me being lynched "just to be safe." Not WF, not Mikal, not Luna. Even though you've repeatedly failed to read all of us and tend to over-town-read them while over-scum-reading me. If you keep mislynching me it's your own fault for not recalibrating your reads.
Luna could go either way but there is an actual scumtell I picked up on in the last game that made me lightly sus him (I was actually considering making a case for him and Pie being the team before Banana came in with her claim). Pie knows what I'm talking about, and so far I haven't seen it yet. Plus, there's another, subtler thing that's hard to put into words, which I'll get into later.
No its NP I never ever said dp.It can be RBd (asked this) but the wording imllies it is guaranteed refund because ots worded as if I definitely dream once per game.
Lunatic is the most likely partner.
Hmm...I actually think AR is town here. If he's scum, he has to know how bad he'll end up looking when I flip town. I'm inclined to agree with Mikal that scum are probably being very quiet right now. Or maybe it's Casey, who has been online but isn't really engaging in the conversation beyond very slight pressure a few pages ago.
Alright, I’m caught up and while I understand where these votes are coming from, I can’t agree to voting Savant. This frustration and his responses so far come off as a townie who doesn’t give a damn about being the lynch if he’s backed into a corner like this again, and considering how I saw that play out last game with the Enabler claim, I can see where it stems from.If he’s doing this as scum, literally making his responses as frustrated and obviously scummy (like that Godfather claim) as possible, then props to him for making this look like an authentic townie meltdown. I just don’t buy that he’d do all this after shifting up his gameplay for much of the game, especially at L-1.
RM can sit there. I really want to explore full claiming
In all fairness, I have been very clear about the fact that I've been busy due to working a lot of overtime and only barely have time for mafia. This is something I've been saying for the past few games in a row; I'm verifiably not making this up. And I will admit, I did think that your stubborn refusal to comply was scummy at first, but now that I think about it more, I don't think you'd self-sabotage like this as scum unless there was a clear benefit to your partner, and I just can't see how that'd be true in this instance. So I will
I get that you’re frustrated with him refusing to claim, though he made clear that he wasn’t going to do that under pressure. He’s hardly the first and won’t be the last. If that was part of a pattern of behavior he was trying to blend in or at least not stand out from past play, I would probably have voted him already, but I’d have to believe that he drew attention to himself as scum by changing up his style substantially, then essentially dared us to lynch him. I just don’t buy that view. It’s possible, but not the most likely explanation.I take him stalling as him needing time to fake. Therefore no matter what he claims now I stick to it.So he’s scum, he’s had almost 24 hours to come up with a fake claim, but hasn’t quite managed it yet and is daring us to lynch him just to gather some more time to… decide to claim all of a sudden? If he does suddenly relent, he still has to somehow avoid getting CC’d, which isn’t going to get any easier without more claims ahead of him. It would also come off as pretty scummy after being this intransigent.
At that point we should just full claim me thinks
