Modern music is shit

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Listen to this whole song (2023) with headphones and then tell me if you've changed your mind.

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Interesting how we respond differently to sounds.

And how appreciation of sound varies over time.

Perhaps more to do with social conditioning.
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I like Adele. I like Lewis Capaldi.
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Listen to this whole song (2023) with headphones and then tell me if you've changed your mind.

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Thats another thing I want to point out, actually good music are blocked out by money burning singers whose voices around like a dolphin trying to speak. 
So much edits, AI, lip syncing but no actual talent like there used to. 
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I like Adele. I like Lewis Capaldi.
Those are singers with good talent, I was more focusing on those who edit their voices or lip sync 
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Adele edits her voice in every single song you hear. So did Bon Jovi btw.
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I like Adele. I like Lewis Capaldi.
Those are singers with good talent, I was more focusing on those who edit their voices or lip sync 
Ah, the autotune babies. Your Jojo Siwas, if you will. Yeah, not a fan.
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This is from reddit:
I'm a fan of classical music mostly but I like some classic rock that I grew up listening to and even some 80s stuff for nostalgia. But modern music, essentially from the mid-90s forward, is total garbage. Every single song is some auto tuned bullshit with computerized instruments or usually no real instruments at all. It feels like 80% of the stuff made now is some form of rap/hip hop/some other ghetto style. Hardly any of the big names have actual nice voices or sing well, it mostly just sounds like wailing into a microphone. The songs that are being written for today's "artists" are so simple and stupid that I can't imagine how anyone likes them.
I see no redeeming qualities in the music of Beyonce, Kanye, Taylor Swift or any of these other big name musicians. Almost every song I hear sounds like total shit with no melodies.
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actually good music are blocked out by money burning singers whose voices around like a dolphin trying to speak. 
I think there's a degree of irony you aren't consciously aware of in lodging this complaint (that vocals in modern music sound too chaotic and visceral) while also complaining about the use of computers in music.

In music, there are those who believe that there's one objectively correct way to, say, play Chopin's Raindrop Prelude. And I disagree.

Now, at first glance this sounds nonsensical, since of course there's sheet music for this piece and if you just did your own thing it'd no longer be Chopin's Raindrop Prelude. But I name this piece because it's the perfect candidate for a small degree of controlled chaos. If there's a slight delay in striking certain notes, it just sounds richer (and more suitable to the theme of rain) than if you were to play it strictly per the notation.
Those who wanted the perfectly rendered Raindrop Prelude would have no reason to listen to a world class pianist play it live, since any computer can execute the same maneuver flawlessly. But what do you get? A completely predictable experience. Every note in a given segment is the exact same volume, and the exact specified length. Nothing at all unexpected happens. It's perfect to the point of being a tad boring and unspirited.

I would suggest that in the future (heck, maybe in 2 or 3 years), AI will be capable of mimicking technically perfect human vocals as well. When this AI vocalist is on the note G per the notation, they sing exactly the note G. There is never an improvised "trill" effect for lack of a better word.
When this day comes, I suggest it will be the very fact that a human voice is unlike computerized vocals that sells human music. And I don't mean this in the sense of people buying subpar human music out of a feeling of obligation to support human artists, but rather as a matter of authentic preference by many listeners.
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I can link you to some easy to understand examples of this if you want.
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My point exactly
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There are no bands anymore, that's why todays music sucks. I mean look at a band like "Triumph".  Three  people, nothing today could even hold a candle to that band.

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Especially pop. Pop sucks
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The Velvet Sundown is a great new Band. Oh wait, they are AI generated.
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Led Zeppelin! Top!
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Especially pop. Pop sucks
I listened to Manchild by Sabrina Carpenter today. Dear God, I'll stick to Panic! At The Disco 
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Listen to this whole song (2023) with headphones and then tell me if you've changed your mind.

People have been making shit that sounds just like this for decades. It's always been a niche genre.
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Studio synthesized, same as all new music. The singer is the only talent.
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no way that's a YouTube link
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Better link to the song that isn't shit. The link, that is. The song still sucks.
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see above
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see above.
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I listened to Manchild by Sabrina Carpenter today. Dear God, I'll stick to Panic! At The Disco 
Carpenter is no different than any other female pop artist nowadays. Be a hoe, sing about being a hoe, dance like a hoe, and you'll be famous. That's how it is.
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@Swagnarok
Listen to this whole song (2023) with headphones and then tell me if you've changed your mind.

I hate this song too
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Art is dying day by day and we can only watch.
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You're right.

There just seems to be so many societal problems that spawned that song from Carpenter. But it's annoying to talk about, so I won't expound  
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Eh. I just hate modern pop.