And is 1x which is why I buy rm more than Wylted.
It’s not worded as 1x. Worded as once per game
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@Lunatic
I’m not chilling on shit.
He said in the op he did not do it and I’m making assumptions off that. If he changes it without saying that is bastard modding and I actually will mod kill myself to ss the answer he gave me.
You don’t say you aren’t doing something them revert. Cus we are all operating on their are no fake claims
I’m assuming there is no fake claims based on how quickly last day phase got shut down when you started talking about a 6 pm mass claim
Actually I won’t screen shot and ruin the game. I’ll copy paste what he said. Not shit about my role
6/17/2025, 11:23:04 AM
I'll abstain from answering that
When I asked him did he give fake claims
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@Lunatic
I think rm or Wylted has a fake claim and that’s why he won’t publicly acknowledge that the rules are the same as in the op
out of all the hills to die on… we shouldn’t have to rely upon n the mods holding our hands to scum hunt
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@Lunatic
It’s not holding our hands. It changes the game dynamic. If he said there are no fake claims , role or character. It completely alters how you view someone willing to early claim
You operate under his word. None where given and it’s massive town cred
Or you don’t and it means nothing because fake claims exist.
If you post that info and change it without saying. He’s that is definitely bastard modding
I’ll drop it but I want an answer
If he said there were no fake claims in the set up, there is no reason to believe he changed that
The only reason I’m giving Wylted any town cred is because he said they don’t exist in signups and outright typed it and people linked it to me
Past that Wylted has a custom role
Was put in a pm With pie when earth was not even active or around. He would magically have to see and respond within 5 mins when it’s more likely they were already in a discord pm. I checked his status when they claimed this
The only thing in Wylteds favor is he claimed cop and mason off the right without a cc. Which is amazing town points if there are no fake claims and means nothing if there are
So yes my read on him depends on the mods answer
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@WyIted
The fact that he won’t confirm it when asked and said he won’t answer. When he confirms he did not alter that I’ll leave you alone and go for Casey
Also want to point out pie is actively using that information for a town read and is linking me to the posts where he said it. So if that’s Bible
Mod Should be able to confirm it. And until he confirms it publicly
My vote is staying in Wylted
Primarily because earth was offline when him and pie were Put in a pm. Sure he could have glanced it and did it in discord but I don’t buy it. Pie would have to have gotten an in game message on here and added externally to discord within mins and I don’t think earth is active enough to do that
I’ll change my vote to Casey once the mod confirms no fake claims or characters were given as he said ina signups. If not I’m death tunneling both of them the entire game
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@Mikal
It’s not holding our hands. It changes the game dynamic. If he said there are no fake claims , role or character. It completely alters how you view someone willing to early claimYou operate under his word. None where given and it’s massive town credOr you don’t and it means nothing because fake claims exist.If you post that info and change it without saying. He’s that is definitely bastard moddingI’ll drop it but I want an answer
Lets not just jump to the conclusion he is bastard modding for no reason though. I don't think he's ever had issues with that in the past, he's a fair mod from my memory. Anyways I kind of understand where he was coming from after modding my last game. Normally I am pretty lenient with answering questions, but I was getting a ton of pressure from you in the mafia pm begging me not to answer mharmans questions, which were in my eyes harmless questions that I would normally answer with no problem, but I didn't want to fvck you over so I refrained. Could be the mafia team is pressuring earth in the same way not to answer that, so he is just taking the safe route here.
So I am just going to take him on his word and honor in the sign ups and assume there was no fake claims. Let's be mad at him after the fact if this doesn't hold true, but until then, I am not gonna begrudge him. Also like I said, people got savant lynched quickly when you dropped a time frame on the mass claim, so I think it's likely mafia wanted to shut that sh1t down, which is further evidence that they didn't have fakes prepared.
I was getting a ton of pressure from you in the mafia pm begging me not to answer mharmans questions
WTF lol.
You guys that beg mods need to stop and it's pretty transparent the goal is manipulation of predefined rules when it happens
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@Lunatic
I agree with this. I think the difference is he publicly stated there would be no fake claims. Yours was off game mechanics “which we just talked past each other and you told me you would not confirm”
Misunderstanding. But you didn’t type that in signups.
The difference is this is pre game message about game design. So if he can’t confirm what he typed, there is an issue.
I feel like if we all are taking him at his word in the sign ups than he is obligated to correct the record if anything changes.
I got an absolutely awful night's sleep, so I will catch up on this DP... after I've injected caffeine into my veins and my vision is no longer double.
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@WyIted
I’ll lay off you if he confirms his own game design and vote for Casey or RM
But as town, you can totally see why I don’t buy this. You and pie are in a pm Within mins when earth takes hours to respond to things. Most likely answer is you are both in a mafia pm and driving us off a cliff. The only cred I am giving you atm is how fast you claimed and there is no cop cc
I’ll look at Casey or RM once the mod confirms his own statement.
Weirdly I think this implicates RM more than you as I don’t see yo throwing a fit about it.
But either way it affects my reads.
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@WyIted
WTF lol.You guys that beg mods need to stop and it's pretty transparent the goal is manipulation of predefined rules when it happens
You dont remember lol? You were in that pm silly.
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@Mikal
I agree with this. I think the difference is he publicly stated there would be no fake claims. Yours was off game mechanics “which we just talked past each other and you told me you would not confirm”Misunderstanding. But you didn’t type that in signups.The difference is this is pre game message about game design. So if he can’t confirm what he typed, there is an issue.
Im gonna trust earth on this one. Either way, if mafia got one fake claim, it doesn't impact things drastically. We just can't town confirm people off of character alone is all. Role claims can usually be confirmed in some capacity.
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@Casey_Risk
Sort of, but I only passively block the NK. The night itself doesn't get skipped.
So if you die NP2, in NP3 there won’t be a night kill?
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@whiteflame
I got an absolutely awful night's sleep, so I will catch up on this DP... after I've injected caffeine into my veins and my vision is no longer double.
I feel that homie. I got like three hours yesterday, im ready to collapse. Interested in reading your thoughts though when I get back this evening.
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@Lunatic
It is a scummy role claim. I do think its interesting that mafia did not even try to interupt a claimed dreamers results though.
The way Casey described it is verbatim a Virgin, not a Martyr
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@Lunatic
I would say out of the three names I'd probably lean the most towards mikal just because some of his logic last day phase was questionable, which as pie pointed out is probably a scum tell. That said I would like claims from you and wylted as well (did wylted already claim? I can't remember).
He did. Check the role list I posted earlier. I’ll update it in a bit. Balgruuf and Deputizer
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@Lunatic
Part of me wants to trust you because pie trusts you and I am fairly confident pie is confirmed town, but with you being on the dreamer results I am a little bit dubious. Tell me if it were me telling you "I think town should just trust me" and roles were reversed what would your reaction be? Just curious, but try to answer that honestly af. If your lying to hype your own argument up I will know.
If you believe me then you need to believe Wylted. I’m in a PM with him. Earth literally gave the results in the PM last night. That XXX was innocent. There is no fake role/claim that exists where a mod would say that.
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@Mikal
Thought about this a lot last night and even how fast they got added to a pm during mid conversation is not earth like. He’s never on and like almost as soon as Wylted claimed pie said he was added to a pm with Wylted and I don’t see earthy responding or doing it that quickly. Plus it would have to be in discord
That’s just shitty logic. You don’t know when Earth was active or not.
Earth also refuses to directly answer me about whether fake claims or roles were given said he would abstain. Which makes it likely that one of the two who claimed early could be fake if he went back on this
If he went against what he said in signups, then it’s bastard modding. We have to run under the assumption that he didn’t.
I also had a justification for it that you criticized for sounding like a Wikipedia article . It was not and I repeat definitely not Chat GPT condensing my PM into 2 sentences and me paraphrasing those 2 sentences enough to avoid technically breaking a rule.
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@Mikal
Target a dead olayer and learn all the results they have gotten.Thought it made sense to balance Your role. Hinted at this last day phase. Cus if you picked scum to add I could verify the results etc but the more I think about the more I just think you are bullshitting. Especially how fast the pm thing happened after your claimed. Earth was not even online around that timeI don’t buy it
Or your role is fake. Also how do you know Earth wasn’t online at the time?
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@Mikal
Target a dead olayer and learn all the results they have gotten.Thought it made sense to balance Your role. Hinted at this last day phase. Cus if you picked scum to add I could verify the results etc but the more I think about the more I just think you are bullshitting. Especially how fast the pm thing happened after your claimed. Earth was not even online around that timeI don’t buy it
Or your role is fake. Also how do you know Earth wasn’t online at the time?