Skyrim Mafia Endgame

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Due to mafia FF, town wins,

1. Pie
2. AR
3. Casey
4. WF 
5. Mikal
6. Ultra
7. Savant
8. Wylted
9. Lunatic


Mafia
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Alduin- The strongest dragon and the World Eater, you are Alduin. Alduin is the prophesied dragon who will end the world and start the next, however you have forsaken this role to instead rule over Nirn. You are however defeated by the Dovahkiin. Due to this, you are the 1x Janitor. Once per game, you may choose that the night kill is not revealed to town and mafia will be given that information alone. You win with the mafia.

Casey

Paarthanax- The secret leader of the Greybeards, you are Paarthanax. Paarthanax was an old follower of Alduin back in the days of old, but in time you stray from his path and choose to meditate on the Throat of the World. Wise, you provide an invaluable source of knowledge to those who defy Alduin. Thus, you are the mafia Rolecop. Once per night, you may target a player and receive their role PM. You win with the Mafia

Town

Pie

Arngeir -
Leader of the Greybeards, you are Arngeir. Arngeir is a wise man who teaches the Dovahkiin in the Way of the Voice. You hosted a peace conference between the Stormcloaks and Imperials, and along with the influence of the Dovahkiin, arranged a ceasefire. Thus, you are the Beloved Princess. If you are killed during the Night, the following DP will be skipped. If you are lynched, the following NP is skipped. You win with the Town.

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Esbern - You are a Blade in hiding, Esbern. Esbern is the go to man on prophesies and lore regarding the Nords and Skyrim. With your knowledge you aid the fight against Alduin. Thus, you are the 1x Dreamer. Starting NP1, assuming you are not visited, you will receive a dream of three players, with at least one being scum. You win with the town.

Mikal

Ulfric-
The Jarl of Windhelm and the leader of the Stormcloaks, you are Ulfric. One learni g the Way of the Voice from the Greybeards, you became disillusioned from the state of the Empire and ran off to form the Stormcloaks. You would eventually kill the High King of Skyrim and spark a war. Thus, as you have protected Skyrim by fighting, you have the option to protect your fellow villagers with your life, you are the Bodyguard. During the night, you may select a player, and if that player is the nightkill target, you protect that player and have a 50% chance of dying instead. You win with the town.

Ultra/Savant

Tullius-
The head of the Imperial Legion, you are Tullius. Tullius runs the Imperial Legion of Skyrim from the city of Solitude. You are loyal to the Empire and want to put down Ulfric's rebellion. Arguably the most important person in Imperial run Skyrim, you are the Governor. Once during the game, you may select a lynch and nullify it, causing it to be treated as a no lynch. You may not nullify your own lynch. You win with the Town.

Savant

Hadvar - A Nord soldier in the Imperial Legion, you are Hadvar. At Helgen when Alduin interrupted Ulfric's execution, you escape and regroup with the Legion. Thus, you are Vanilla. You have no special abilities, but you may influence the game with your voice and vote. You win with the Town.

Wylted

Balgruuf-
The Jarl of Whiterun, you are Balgruuf. Balgruuf is the Jarl of the beleaguered city of Whiterun. Although you have obvious grievances with the Imperials and wanting the best for your city, but when push comes to shove, you align with the Imperials over the Stormcloaks. When the Dovahkiin saved Whiterun from a dragon attack you name him Thane. Therefore, you are the Deputizer. Once during the game, you may select a living player and I will make a chat where you can talk to each other and decide on a 1x Cop target. You win with the Town.

Lunatic

Ulfric-
The Jarl of Windhelm and the leader of the Stormcloaks, you are Ulfric. One learni g the Way of the Voice from the Greybeards, you became disillusioned from the state of the Empire and ran off to form the Stormcloaks. You would eventually kill the High King of Skyrim and spark a war. Thus, as you have protected Skyrim by fighting, you have the option to protect your fellow villagers with your life, you are the Bodyguard. During the night, you may select a player, and if that player is the nightkill target, you protect that player and have a 50% chance of dying instead. You win with the town.
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Pretty good for a "gamethrowing troll" if I do say so myself. Of course, I got lynched after this...

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So yeah, I basically made a mafia game with no mafia lmao. I probably should have made the Esbern character into a vanilla, and then it would have been decently balanced if I made Paarnthnax a GF or something. However I still think Mafia did about as good as they could all thing considering. I still don't like the meta of mods just saying all details of their game out in the open. I don't get Mikal's vitriol. Mikal has played mafia on DDO long enough to remember there were mods who wouldn't even tell you if you got roleblocked or not. Moving forward, I will probably take much more time to work on my games and also implement anti claims.
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mafia

I'll post night actions later, I'm a little lazy and I'm about to take a shower.
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Mikal’s character and role are wrong
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I wasn’t ulfric btw. Was what I said 

Wasn’t vitriol. I think not saying anything  is fine. Just set it before so everyone is aware etc. espc when pie said he got a diff answer than I did 

Was annoyed cus you told him it’s the same and told me you wouldn’t answer. That could make me get lynched. 


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Elenwen

You are Elenwen, the head Thalmaor Ambassador in Skyrim. You are the top agent for the Thalmor and you push their interests. You covertly push the civil war to continue and also hunt down Talos worshippers. You have a secret dossier on the major players in Skyrim that you use to further your interests. Thusly, you are the Forensic. Once during the game, you may select a dead player and receive any reports or any mod given information they might have. You win with the Town.
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This is why the norm in pro mafia scene is NEVER ever claim even in twilight. Never admit, just in case.
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Towntelling is a better skill than good reading btw.

I realised this somewhat medium into my evolution as a mafia player.

The skill that transcends alignment and role is towntelling.

You are bad at it.

You may be good at reading in this 1 game. Well done. I did scumread WF btw. Ask earth 2 teams I suggested np1. Wf was in one, mikal in other, got the partners wronng but casey was an option for both.
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Honestly still thought it was Mikal lol
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Towntelling is a better skill than good reading
If people know you always town tell, the logical reaction is to town read you less...
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If anyone scumreads Casey dp1, they cannot really justify why.

Pie and ultra holding chars was stupid, we woukd crack theme way easier with them full outing dp3.
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And they do. But they also scumread you less.

Now you know I will tunnel that much on wrong targets as Town. You will struggle hindsight reading me when I am Mafia.
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And they do. But they also scumread you less.
So it would be equally good to always be scummy, because people would adjust the same and stop reading you.
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TLDR. My reads are bad so you don’t know when I’m being bad or leading mislynches. 
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Dying 
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Wylted played the duo wrong.

He should have hardclaimed what Pie is and played it totally reversed, but lied about the role of Pie in his mimickery.
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If you say so.

In the end this site in particular has a poorly skilled crowd at times. I have played tooth and nail to a bitter ending, voted correctly at least 2 games if not 3 and bastard mechanics of mod won the game for the other side.

2 of them I was town. The scum games I had were nearly all rigged against scum so that is whatever.
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Imo Lunatic played his role best,

Pie led town best.
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Well, we did what we could. Didn't have a lot to work with and it felt like a losing battle after seeing how much confirmation there was by DP2. This game definitely could have swung in our favor if our selections had gone just a bit differently. Casey and I had it down to Luna and Pie as our targets (was considering WyIted, but ruled him out), and if we'd flipped our choices or if Luna hadn't protected Pie or if he'd just failed the coin flip and died instead of Pie, things could have turned out a lot better for us.

Also could've gotten some credit from claiming that I'd Tracked Luna to Pie, but I was a little hesitant to do that since we didn't know if there was another protective role in play or a Tracker by that point. Didn't have much choice but to go for the Tracker claim and hope to get some form of internal confirmation Ultra/Savant. Kinda worked, but a little too late.

FWIW, we would have gone for the NK on Pie, so that would have cost town a DP. Didn't know he was the Beloved Princess (we were considering that as a claim for Casey), but it wouldn't have won us the game regardless since we just would have been at 2-1 instead of 3-1. Oh well.
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It was bastard modding to give Pie and Wylted a diff answer than you gave Mikal and myself.

They almost switched to Mikal on that.
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My dream not having Lunatic in it also messed you up.

Had it done so, Casey could have hardclaimed Luna's stuff, tweaked it slightly to a doc variant or something and made it very difficult for Luna and us.
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My dream not having Lunatic in it also messed you up.

Had it done so, Casey could have hardclaimed Luna's stuff, tweaked it slightly to a doc variant or something and made it very difficult for Luna and us.
Yeah... we were sitting there unsure how we wanted to handle your Dreamer and decided it wasn't worth the loss of information to stop it. Lost a number of coin flips (Luna's role in particular) that really screwed us.
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The balance was def off


If it worked how intended it’s fine but way to swingy 
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Also only reason I as flaming at earth. 

Answer was - I’m not answering anything to anyone. I would have left it alone. 

Or a consistent answer. 

It’s the multiple answers that annoyed me. 
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In general the mod not answering anything should be meta imo and just precedent in general. 
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You flamed him for not answering all dp1.
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Pie and ultra holding chars was stupid, we woukd crack theme way easier with them full outing dp3.
Even with WF fake claiming?
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FWIW, we would have gone for the NK on Pie, so that would have cost town a DP. Didn't know he was the Beloved Princess (we were considering that as a claim for Casey), but it wouldn't have won us the game regardless since we just would have been at 2-1 instead of 3-1. Oh well.
Ya, that’s why I was certain Casey was scum. I was hoping yall would NK me so we get a free lynch essentially. 
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Opposite happens, if you get NKd it skips to next NP