Feminist Mafia Day 1

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Not at all.

I dont need to look towniest in this scenario as scum.

Ive basically dedicated to not caring until dp3.

If forced I have a claim. Once I claim you are doomed.
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Also Supersaint makes a lot of sense with Joan. And its a lynch I am suspicious of mafia having high incentive to want to push because it could result in two mislynches. I am open to it being scum, I just agree with casey, he seemed to claim it without tons of pressure. Theres bad and then theres bad.
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it can only be because of AR pushing him.
I may be copiously lacking in many intellectual areas, but even I wouldn't fake claim super saint after such little pressure and so much time. 
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Not at all.

I dont need to look towniest in this scenario as scum.

That's sure not how you came into the day phase acting. Sounded like you wanted everyone's approval and permission on how to act this game. Nice switcharoo.

Ive basically dedicated to not caring until dp3.
Yeah your probably gonna get lynched because of it, so congrats.

If forced I have a claim. Once I claim you are doomed.
lol

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I may be copiously lacking in many intellectual areas, but even I wouldn't fake claim super saint after such little pressure and so much time. 
Plus you've been in enough of these now you don't really count as "new" anymore. 
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But you see bluffing works in funny ways.

If I came into the dp acting a different way I cannot then force the preessure to get reads.
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I don’t buy the argument that he just would not claim that. Super saint is vague and not often used and even he prefaced it by saying it’s scummy and the fact Joan is likely not to be in the game makes it more likely he won’t get cced. You can spin anyone as a feminist if you try hard enough.  Don’t see a split with that and my character and don’t see a hated and a super saint in the same game without some type of major balance. 
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@Mikal

All 3 of our characters are brave/belligierent in the face of adversity. I see a split that works.
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There is no world where you take a person who said. I hope men die from Covid and compare it to Joan as far as being brave lmao 
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Yes there is
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She grew up in Oman too, making it even less likely she would end up feminist.
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I go now for a bit.

I recommend all to follow my lead
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Luna is the vote today
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@Mikal
Super saint is vague and not often used and even he prefaced it by saying it’s scummy and the fact Joan is likely not to be in the game makes it more likely he won’t get cced. You can spin anyone as a feminist if you try hard enough.  Don’t see a split with that and my character
Do you think AR and Ultra are a team however? Because AR backs up the character.

Also, like I said, I know from experience that Owen tends to be very reliant on his partner as scum. It's been true in every scum game he's played that I can remember - particularly Classic Movies, but also Villainous Villains and Heroic Heroes. I just don't think that his partner would advise him to claim Joan of Arc/Super Saint so early. Not unless his partner was just terrible at mafia, and I don't think anyone here fits that bill.
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I’m stuck on WF but looking for second scum 

Sitting on 

Luna 
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Luna just pings me behaviorally odd as some of his pushes seem Opportunistic.

Rm- town or not. He’s anti town town to keep around and is a mislynch waiting to happen.  His behavior is totally spastic

Ultra - don’t buy anything about his claim or role.  
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No I think is likely one or the other with wf 
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Luna is the vote today
I literally cannot see Luna being voted out today.
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You couldnt see Savant being voted out the othee game either. Then you voted him.
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Also could be Luna wf. Mainly looking slightly at Luna because he is really wanting to push the rm lynch so hard 
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No I think is likely one or the other with wf 
Fair enough, I agree that it's likely one or the other. I just think that AR is the better choice.
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I understand why people are sussing the Super Saint claim from Ultra, but I just don't buy that this is a fake claim. I think Mharman has the right of it: this would have to be his actual claim (say, Suicide Bomber) and he just repackaged it as Super Saint with Joan of Arc, someone who fits the bill well. Maybe that happened, but I'd give it an outside chance at best. I don't see Ultra running that kind of gambit, at least not based on anything I've seen him do as scum. I'd say it's more likely he's town than not. The only reason we lynch him this DP is out of an abundance of caution (he's likely to remain in PoE with that claim and the later we lynch him, the more damage doing so will do) or as a means to both test him and eliminate someone else who would otherwise be the lynch.

I'd prefer just lynching the person we think is most likely scum, but if the majority think that's Ultra, then I guess we have to have a pretty solid second pick hammer.
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You couldnt see Savant being voted out the othee game either.
That's not even true. I never said that at all. I saw him being voted out quite easily, actually.
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You keep saying you've provided your reasoning but I'd appreciate if you reiterated. It really feels like OMGUS tunneling. There's also your lying and your weird shift in play style, which was noticeable early on. Not to mention your lack of cooperation with town. Your persistence defense of me also comes across as scummy. 
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This is going to sound harsh. I just think RM is that bad of a player and thinks he’s that good that he will Mentally justify whatever gambit he’s trying 
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Can you paraphrase your PM? 
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I have a role.

That role is such that by dp3 Ill be able to prove I am town to a very high degree of certainty.

Think of my role as a role where if Mafia knows it, they can much easier decide what to do with me.

As for Luna, he is scummy. I told you he faked his reasoning, mimicked mikal, gaslit. Simple.
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I also want to point out this is the first game I’ve been in that ultra has not been replaced or actually tried in. His normally activist is absent or town. 
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I really go for now, need to do a few things
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@AdaptableRatman
But you see bluffing works in funny ways.

If I came into the dp acting a different way I cannot then force the preessure to get reads.

You haven't pressured anyone. You just keep begging people to vote with you without telling them why. That is not pressure.
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@Mikal
This is going to sound harsh. I just think RM is that bad of a player and thinks he’s that good that he will Mentally justify whatever gambit he’s trying 
I mean, fair enough lol. At this point however, I think I've said all I can about AR vs Ultra. If the majority clearly prefers Ultra, I'll switch my vote if necessary just so that we can have a lynch. For now, though, I'm going to vote for the one I sus most.

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