Feminist Mafia Day 1

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That’s fine. He still dies dp3 but it wedges bets. Hes also dumb enough as town to do That and it’s literally non sensical to let him have a chance to confirm since they can’t end before then cus my role stops. 


He will either be a lock or die. No reason to even consider him until dp3 and pushing that is sus as shit. 
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I’m fine with backing off that a bit but I dont buy ultras claim. I’ll lynch him if we want to test my read. But I’d rather have wf. 

I think 2/3 is between wf ultra and rm and rm Solves himslef dp3
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That’s fine. He still dies dp3 but it wedges bets. Hes also dumb enough as town to do That and it’s literally non sensical to let him have a chance to confirm since they can’t end before then cus my role stops. 
I mean in this situation we don't even make it to dp3. sooo... 
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I think 2/3 is between wf ultra and rm and rm Solves himslef dp3
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I find it omega sus you are wanting to Lynch rm
When he’s claiming an outright confirmable role.  It will resolve or he dies. There is literally no reason to kill him and he is now Locked. 

If he’s lying as town and another role he’s already through. 

He’s either buying time as scum and will die or we have a town locked. Not worth the risk when it’s literally confirmable. 
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Also even if you buy RM's claim, it literally explains none of the behavior changes, the omgus, the lying, literally anything. 
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How does this end before dp3?
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I concede that it's most logical to not lynch RM. It just annoys me he got away with playing like this.
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Bro it’s RM. nothing he ever does make sense. 


I don’t care about his behavior anymore. Don’t need to. He has a confirmable role 
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Like not even kinda confirmable.  Mod confirmed. 

So he’s lying and dies or he’s a town lock
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How does this end before dp3?
Assuming nonvigilante or way to kill scum nor 2 townies at np:

  • Town hammers town Ultra dp1 or dp2.
  • Town ML/Miselimianates the other dp
  • Scum kill NP2 and NP3

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Sorry NP1 and NP2.

I was thinking of night start setups when saying that.
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we just leave ultra alive till You confirm. 


Think one of you sure is scum and if you confirm then yeah we deal With it then and prob have some results by then too 
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I find it omega sus you are wanting to Lynch rm
I find it omega infuriating you are giving him a free fvcking pass for the worst behavior ever. This is text book scum RM.

When he’s claiming an outright confirmable role. 
He claimed it once before, said he lied about it, then claimed it again. He said multiple time this day phase he wouldn't be claiming under any circumstances, and that he would lie when he did, and you are now arbitrarily trusting that. And he doesn't even know how innocent child works, because he has said a few times that he is "probably" confirmable, or there is a small chance he won't be confirmed when thats literally not how innocent child works. 

It will resolve or he dies. There is literally no reason to kill him and he is now Locked. 

Don't be surprised if he isn't confirmed and laughs in your face for believing this bs and enforcing his mafia god complex.

He’s either buying time as scum and will die or we have a town locked. Not worth the risk when it’s literally confirmable. 
You are easily dismissing the scenario we don't even make it to day phase three, not to mention other roles that could exist that could shorten things as well. 
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Low-key no Lynching also an option to stall 
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we just leave ultra alive till You confirm. 
Doesnt ultras power deactivate like yours?

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We are not NLing that is useless in a 9 person setup with 3 outed already
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Outside of an extra kill or be being hammerable (im
Not) 

We will get there if we don’t test ultra

We focus on other reads 


Yeah he played like a moron. But he’s confirmable. Great he can laugh and god complex. He’s still dead if he lied. Better to confirm before making assumptions. He’s also dumb enough to just play bad. 
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How does this end before dp3?
9 person set up means 7 v 2, exactly three mislynches. Assuming Ultra is town and another townie hammers, thats 2 mislynches, if we mislynch dp2 its game over counting two night kills. 5 dead townies makes it 2 v 2 which is parity. 
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because he has said a few times that he is "probably" confirmable, or there is a small chance he won't be confirmed when thats literally not how innocent child works. 
If I said differently it would narrow down what I am too much. I lied intentionally.
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We leave ultra alive until later then. 

I am not and no one should lynch a role that’s mod confirmable. It’s dumb play. Yeah we have to stall on ultra. You want to not kill him anyway as you town read him. If someone has a vig They hold it. Mafia won’t get 2 kills on a 7v2
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If I said differently it would narrow down what I am too much. I lied intentionally.
It was also said after you claimed innocent child the first time then admitted to lying about it. 
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I can totally see a world where rm is just sayinf a bunch of dumb shit so he doesn’t get night killed and thinks it’s good play (it’s not)


But it’s rm And he will think it is. If he laughs or is scum and got away for a few Days. Cool. He still dies. If he’s town he’s confirmed. 


Not risking killing him over pride 
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Do you know how bluffing works?

The fact I was scumread was ideal too but I got too scumread

I needed mafia to believe that I was frameable andeave me for later or to waste investigations on me
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I know you think you're helping town but you're lying to us just as much as you are to mafia. 
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Not risking killing him over pride 
I want to lynch him for his behavior not for pride. I brought the pride up as an argument for you, since you literally said you don't care about his behavior. 
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On god we need to stop fluff. Get off RM go to another target.  Entertaining anything he says is dumb. His reads are all over the place and largely no value 

You resolve him Dp3 and move on for now 
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And that was good. I would not have played this differently at all.

I factored how good my role was to claim in how I acted.

Luna Wylted/Earth Barney

2/3.

I am sure of it.




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@Lunatic
why are you wanting to cut read a mod confirmable role? When he flips You deal With it then 


Scenarios the game ends early 


We lynch ultra 
There is a vig in town 


Don’t do either 
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Luna pushing so hard on this is really pinging me as strange as it makes literally no sense to kill Him earlu as it resolves itself later.