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Id like to hear a bit more from whiteflame, mharman and casey maybe from wylted/earth too, but that abysmal effort from barney left a sour taste in my mouth, I was expecting a big catch up post with reads or something, and he just lazily throws his vote on ultra....
Where did everyone go
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@Lunatic
just sheeped the ultra vote,
Nice straw man
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Why do you believe Ultra and his justification? Moreover, if you believe that he’s telling the truth and I am scum, why are you opposed to having me die by hammering him?
Joan of Arc isn’t knowing for getting revenge on those who killed her. Nor has he given a more detailed justification even when pressured… If by some chance he’s town, he’ll be an easy mislynch in later day phases thereby helping scum at a critical time, so why do you want that to occur?
Barney offered to hammer. If he was going to be the lynch anyway, I don't think anyone should be opposed
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@Barney
Nice straw man
???
Why do you believe Ultra and his justification?
He wasn’t under extreme pressure when he claimed, also the circumstances of Joan and her death as martyr fit super saint as a justification. Why don’t you believe the justification?
Moreover, if you believe that he’s telling the truth and I am scum, why are you opposed to having me die by hammering him?
You haven’t hammered so this is a moot point.
If by some chance he’s town, he’ll be an easy mislynch in later day phases thereby helping scum at a critical time, so why do you want that to occur?
So you have zero thoughts on the game after pretending to catch up? Nothing at all. Great thanks.
My justification is that I'm one of the most famous saints there is.
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@Ultracrepidarian
How does that fit with killing her killers after she died? Hosts tend to align characters to mechanics which fit their story, with the names being almost purely incidental.
Also why did you try to get two of your neighbors to fight?
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@Lunatic
Nice straw man???
His justification is nearly abysmal, and he was caught doing incredibly scummy behavior which he cannot explain (trying to instigate a fight which had zero chance of benefitting town).
Had I sheeped, any previous votes would have been for those reasons, which couldn’t have been the case as the extent of the scumminess was a new observation made by me.
Why don’t you believe the justification?
Nice deflect. Scroll up, I’ve been crystal clear that I know basic history to know that Joan of Arc didn’t take her killers with her.
You haven’t hammered so this is a moot point.
By that standard everything everyone says is moot on DP1, so I might as well have ignored all analysis and lynched you without reading anything like RM demanded (was he not claiming innocent child, my vote would be in him… But by your standard, he hasn’t been mod confirmed as innocent child yet so your vote should be on him… are you starting to see the holes in your logic?)
If by some chance he’s town, he’ll be an easy mislynch in later day phases thereby helping scum at a critical time, so why do you want that to occur?So you have zero thoughts on the game after pretending to catch up? Nothing at all. Great thanks.
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Early guess, most likely wrong, but behaviorally you’re desperately twisting stuff and pretending not to know what a straw man is to take attention off of him… Are you two on a scum team?
Sorry, been a busy morning at work.
Regarding Barney, his relative lack of participation is a problem, but I'd still like to see him give more thoughts than just further establishing his read on Ultra. I think just lynching someone who is relatively inactive would be a pretty lazy choice.
His stance on Ultra at least seems to be coming into focus, since he's focused on the mechanics of the role and how well they fit the character. While Joan of Arc certainly didn't kill others after she died, I think the application here may just be on the "Saint" title and its association with the name of the role. That could be a hastily thrown together fake claim or it could just be what Savant thought suited the character regardless of how well the mechanics matched the character. I think it would be a very odd choice for a fake claim since it draws so much attention to him, hence I think it's more likely the latter than the former, but the fact that Joan of Arc is even in this game is pretty baffling.
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@Barney
Unvote Barney
Vote Lunatic
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@Barney
How does that fit with killing her killers after she died? Hosts tend to align characters to mechanics which fit their story, with the names being almost purely incidental.
it justifies supersaint and my innocent child role is justified just as poorly. He gave me a bulletproof or dodging role justification.
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@Barney
Vote Lunatic
Trust me and just do it
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@Barney
His justification is nearly abysmal, and he was caught doing incredibly scummy behavior which he cannot explain (trying to instigate a fight which had zero chance of benefitting town).
What fight is he instigating? What are you talking about?
Had I sheeped, any previous votes would have been for those reasons, which couldn’t have been the case as the extent of the scumminess was a new observation made by me.
You barely said anything about it when you voted him, and conveniently ultra has been getting pushed all day phase. Not a single thought provided on another player.
Nice deflect. Scroll up, I’ve been crystal clear that I know basic history to know that Joan of Arc didn’t take her killers with her.
Maybe you are focusing on the wrong part of the role there fella. Super Saint. smh
By that standard everything everyone says is moot on DP1, so I might as well have ignored all analysis and lynched you without reading anything like RM demanded (was he not claiming innocent child, my vote would be in him… But by your standard, he hasn’t been mod confirmed as innocent child yet so your vote should be on him… are you starting to see the holes in your logic?)
Your begging for town cred based on claiming that you are willing to hammer someone I believe is also town, but you only just casted your vote and you are number two on the vote, til it happens its a bluff, and even if it does happen, congrats you are likely just hammering a townie, and if your town you put us down two mislynches. At best your argument is that your a townie but a bad townie. Okay great. Oh and btw I would be happily lynching RM if it were possible, but people are buying his innocent child bs, so it doesn't look like thats going to happen.
Early guess, most likely wrong, but behaviorally you’re desperately twisting stuff and pretending not to know what a straw man is to take attention off of him… Are you two on a scum team?
Yep because all scum are known for blatantly buddying their scum mates. Iron clad logic.
We cannot hammer ultra until RM is confirmed. For once I think my vote is vtnl to stall for confirmation
If we pressure much more we are going to end up having to mass claim. On god I really do think stalling is the play this dp until we more votes.
Also if we waive today, we can have someone hammer ultra tomorrow.
Np1 1
D2 2
Np2 1
Would be 9-4 so 3v2
And then rm would be alive on dp3 As a lock or to kill.
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@Mikal
im fine with the logic there, and if we have to no lynch thats fine.
If we follow the above if we get a result on someone. We have them hammer ultra for confirmation.
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@Lunatic
Check my math but it should work. We waive today. We can have someone hammer ultra tomorrow and still should be fine on day phase 3 which rm Will be a lock Or just die
Unvote
Vtnl
I still think it’s wf but I’m not getting that lynch so this is my backup
Vtnl
I still think it’s wf but I’m not getting that lynch so this is my backup
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@Mikal
I mean I am fine with a vtnl but I still think we should have a better reason for lynching ultra then his claim alone.
I am obviously against NL as it ruins my role's power to lead dp3 and because I know I am town.
However this town has been so bad so far. Mikal somehow being scum faking willingness to go downnwith uktra and self over me etc is even in the mix.
Its all so utterly scummy.
I git scumread for simply adjusting myself to a situation. People expect me to tunnel nonstop every dp1 or toen so these poor reads need tk ebbadkusted.
Whether I am town or scum I will play however I see fit and if voted off right or wrong over 100s of games that is the fsult of others if their justification is solley me shifting. That is nonsense.
Its ignorijg cotnext differences that last game I was forced to out fast.
Now I was forced to out and nobody will listen or follow because again they are not good at mafia and I dont see them winning.
The NL only serves to negate my leadership. It doesnt help town remotrly if I am town. This logic is just stupid. Why would Mikal be pro massclaim before and now totally anti?
I dont even care if we all massclaim. We need to solve. This game is utterly stupid so far imho
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@whiteflame
Vote btw, dont play the middle, its your scumtell.
RM in the past games you’ve played just even recently. You have not had one correct read.
That ignores all my correct townreads. i even townread you early last game.
I have played 1 game only btw.
Wf was scumread by me dp1 last game and dp2 as well.
If you never get wrong reads you are bad at mafia, but the why matters more.
The why of scumreading me this game is ridiculous. Now I am outed, still nobody sheeps me.outside ultra.
It is pathetic.
Youre giving scum a free chance to have both alive rather than risking to eliminate 1.
Mafia want low pressure on them. Of course theyll back your NL eventually
The NL only serves to negate my leadership.
X'D
RM being the leader of anything is hilarious.
Also thus game I was orobably the first oayer to townread you is that not a correct read?
Do you think before trying to degrade me?