Not saying it’s correct but It’s a good post.
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@Lunatic
It’s a fair question I think.
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@AdaptableRatman
I don't love the idea of the VTNL, but if we're considering the probability of the Super Saint being real and actually want to pursue that lynch regardless, then that might be for the best. It also gives us one round of night actions to kick the tires and see if there's a better lynch on offer. I can at least see the play. What I don't understand is statements like this from you:
I am obviously against NL as it ruins my role's power to lead dp3 and because I know I am town.
What do you stand to lose, exactly? You get to DP3, thus you get the opportunity to reveal yourself as the Innocent Child. That should be your priority, since by then, you would absolutely be confirmed and your word would have a great deal more merit to it. Are you just frustrated that it means you don't get to decide the lynch DP1 or, potentially, DP2? Because that's not likely regardless of what we do.
A lot of the rest of what I'm seeing is just theorizing about the ways Luna could be manipulating perceptions of various players during this DP, particularly Ultra. If you want Ultra's lynch, you should be entirely onboard with the VTNL because, again, it accomplishes what you want just with a single DP delay while simultaneously ensuring your confirmation. If you just want to lynch Luna, I guess you have reason to be upset, but I don't see good reason to VTL him this DP. I can entirely understand his frustration, even if it's not the right move to have pursued your lynch on that basis.
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@Mikal
It’s a fair question I think.
If you will beg and grovel to him?
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@whiteflame
You gain nothing at all from vtnl.
Ill vote ultra if luna hammer.
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@AdaptableRatman
Ill vote ultra if luna hammer.
You town read ultra remember? OR was that yet another lie to add to the mountain of lies you have already told town?
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@Lunatic
No. He was asking why would you make the statement that he would apologize to you as scum. You were pretty sold he’s scum and asking that implies you think he’s town. If he’s town then why build such a case he’s scum.
I don’t think he’s wrong with the logic to that. It’s a fair catch and actually makes me town read him. Right or wrong, I don’t think scum Would think that
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@Mikal
No. He was asking why would you make the statement that he would apologize to you as scum. You were pretty sold he’s scum and asking that implies you think he’s town. If he’s town then why build such a case he’s scum.
No I am talking about him doing the same thing, and apologizing to me and groveling to me when I am town. Which he won't do because he is a hypocrite.
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@AdaptableRatman
You gain nothing at all from vtnl.
I disagree that I gain nothing from a VTNL given that people will have night actions and those will inform us for the following DP. What I don't understand is why you think you gain nothing from a VTNL. Again: sets you one DP closer to confirmation at low risk. Why are you opposed to that?
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@Lunatic
I get that but you realize he would only do that as town right ?
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@Mikal
I get that but you realize he would only do that as town right ?
My vote isn't even on him? He scum reads me and hasnt provided a single reason, why arent you using the same logic for him?
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@whiteflame
Vtnl is solely justifiabke if you think all 3 of us outed are town.
If you do, it then backfires as you know town is relatively powerless so far.
I also can see most of the town are not very skilled theyll need me to carry. Best to get rid of Luna, we handle the partner later.
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@Lunatic
I am Considering it but also know he’s just dumb and doesn’t realize he’s doing the same thing unintentionally. Maybe I’m overthinking and it was a haha comment
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@Lunatic
I am telling you simply NK me or you go down.
I dont guarantee this Town will find your partner but you, I tunnel all game now.
I will ignore almost everything. I vote you all game until Im killed off.
Whuteflame is very scummy for transitioning to cowardice here.
I'm sorry, I haven't been as active as I know I should be. I have work today but I'm going to try and get caught up.
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@AdaptableRatman
I'm trying to understand where you're coming from specifically and I'm failing. It's clear that you badly want Luna's lynch. Absent that, would you honestly prefer an Ultra lynch, despite the fact that it could result in us not reaching DP3 and having you confirmed?
I’m NGl. Reading his posting is making me shit down. It’s bringing the dayphase to like 30 pages and out of 200 posts. He may have 2 or 3 that add value to the game. It’s mentally exhausting. I’m going to stop engaging for a bit as it’s giving me a headache. But I think we no lunch
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@AdaptableRatman
I am telling you simply NK me or you go down.
If I was scum I would happily night kill you. I would be happy if you go down tonight, and they try to frame me for it. Anything to get you out of the game, because you are actually detrimental to town.
WHOEVER THE SCUM TEAM IS PLEASE KILL RM. I DONT EVEN CARE IF YOU WANNA FRAME ME FOR THAT SH!T. Please for the love of god do us all a favor.
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@AdaptableRatman
If you arent dead soon Im going to assume your scum.
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@Lunatic
Lol. If youd do that as scum helping town then youre a soft-gting troll.
You can justify it as 'wifom' not as that.
If he was not mod confirmable. I would kill him Just to stop spam. But I’m not throwing. It is exhausting at this point
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@whiteflame
If Luna hammers im fine with an ultra lynch. 100%
Mikal, so much junk came from you too, I have to respect your playstyle.
I'm fine with a VTNL. Its really not worth the risk of potentially eating a Super Saint kill and we have at least RM being able to confirm himself come DP3.
You say dont ban or mute people to control their playstyle yet you will vote off in spitefulness to control playstyles which is far less justifiable and is essentially a form of gt if you townread them as town yourself
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@AdaptableRatman
I dont guarantee this Town will find your partner but you, I tunnel all game now.
A very wise, ratty man once asked "What gain is there pure tunneling?"
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@Earth
That doesnt help at all. Theyll hijack control away from me even when I the clear. Vtnl gains us 0
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@Ultracrepidarian
Pure tunneling is refusing to read outside the tunnel and doing it fast into dp1.
In reading outside and this is not fast into dp1