I never remember Ragnar being active or high energy lol.
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@Mikal
This too.
From what I can tell, Savant is conservative-leaning. I was suspicious of the theme and figured he’d have some message to go along with it.
How about a theme split where the greatest threat to the feminists are the “icons” they lifted up, that never believed in their cause? Because according to what I looked up, she seems to think she and she alone was the exception to the traditional gender roles at the time.
Anyways, I don’t see the point in a town super saint. We could mislynch him, have a second townie die, and third in the night phase. That already costs town a DP and means we lose with two mislynches, barring any cracked play from a protective role.
It makes more sense if the role is on a scum team, since town holds the advantage after lynching him, even if it costs one more townie than it normally would.
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@Mikal
And not that I want to focus on split. How can my character and Joan be in the same split. I told men to die and she is a saint.That entire thing seems sus
Replying to this in 142 from you
funny as I’m catching up my immediate thought is this is a different rm than the last game, and it seems several others have picked up on that as well. Btw Mikal is town lock in my eyes, I don’t buy it’s a gambit.
Vtl RM.
Ratman does seem less confident than last game but it doesn't seem that significant
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@Ultracrepidarian
His reads seem confident to me. It’s the questions at the start that bother me.
At any rate, I wanna let him cook for this phase.
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@Lunatic
And what is your reasoning behind not voting anyone else than me?
RM is 10000 percent playing different and it’s noticeable. It’s why I voted him On the spot. Would wager it’s prob a 50/50 between him and ultra. I don’t think they are on the same team. He said he’s not claiming which is fine, just means we prob have ro commit and kill
RMS behavior seems sus
Ultras claim seems sus
I just don’t think RM would asap pressure his partner and try to lead a lynch on it
Maybe RM WF
Or ultra +1
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@Mharman
Savant seems like you. The libertarian that confuses himself for aligned with us conservatives that deeply resent libertarianism.
Yes, it is 2 way. Any conservative that is a fan of Trump as a person is delusional.
Lol. If I claim, my role becomes useless. You being so dedicated to getting rid of me is weird but since you offer to hammer ultra it backs up your original claim and is Towny.
Luna joining in where he did is very scummy though.
Mikal try harder to read outside me. You are blinkered rn.
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@AdaptableRatman
And what is your reasoning behind not voting anyone else than me?
You don’t seem nearly as confident, your talking up what you do as opposed to doing it, as opposed to last game where you were on your reads like white on rice, here your spending all your time trying to sell what your town tells are rather than just let other people come to that conclusion naturally. And the role your hinting at isn’t all that townie sounding, I see no reason you would even be willing to lie about it and it sounds like it has an equal chance of hurting town. It’s screaming like your setting up a fake claim but it’s not even a good one.
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@Mikal
Doe which portion. The town or scum read on both?
Guess I'm mainly wondering why you see AR and me in a similar light either way.
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@Lunatic
White on rice is the opposite of letting others come to conclusions naturally.
I hijacked everything to stop the massclaim and refused to let things go naturally.
At the end of the day you are clinging at nothing.
My role is different this game. Me outing fast is stupid this game. Others in the game are different. Last game was high activity, this game is less active.
How do you expect me to have more reads than I have?
I literally already made a list of TR and scumpool. You are gaslighting.
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@AdaptableRatman
I have a role that needs to be kept secret from mafia to be fully useful.They can avoid me mattering by certain night action choices.I am ok with them NKing me if needed. I am not ok full outing.I will literally lie about my role if needed and clarify later why.I recommend Town visiting roles to avoid me, I will be dead or likely proven later.
Most roles are best kept secret from mafia, though some do have more utility when kept secret, so I think that's what you're hinting at. I won't speculate on the specific role. I don't know why you'd just outright say that you're going to lie about your role if you're pushed to claim.
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@whiteflame
Lunatic is fabricating reasons to vote me after I made it clear Scum not knowing my role hurts them.
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@Mharman
I’m implying it’s literally that lol
Fair enough.
Vtl RM
I want a claim
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@whiteflame
I will lie. I guarantee it.
I may be protective btw. I have my reasons to not out. I may be 2x, even nights, other things.
Utility is more likely what I am, in the pool of roles.
My character is also problematic to claim.
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@Ultracrepidarian
It wont happen. Either I am around dp3 and can almost definitely be proven or I am dead and saved an investigator dying.
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@whiteflame
Both around the opinion on ultra. Both seemed like opportunistic pushes but left open enough to back off if needed. Like fishing for a wagon
Could be scum trying to mislynch or if he’s scum. Prob means your both town. Just think it’s unlikely a forced push like that happens that early if you are partners
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@Ultracrepidarian
Mafia cannot know my role. It is not a good idea. I will claim a different role.
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@AdaptableRatman
White on rice is the opposite of letting others come to conclusions naturally.I hijacked everything to stop the massclaim and refused to let things go naturally.At the end of the day you are clinging at nothing.My role is different this game. Me outing fast is stupid this game. Others in the game are different. Last game was high activity, this game is less active.How do you expect me to have more reads than I have?I literally already made a list of TR and scumpool. You are gaslighting.
Gaslighting? How am I gaslighting you? Also this entire post reeks of being overly defensive lol.
He’s claiming PGO that’s the issue or some negative utility kill role which is sus. Why I won’t let go. Cus we already have hated and super saint.
I mean savant could have just make a theme where all feminist are bad haha
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@AdaptableRatman
Telling town you are lying literally defeats the purpose of doing it. If you’re gonna lie you have to just do it and it better be for a good reason. I don’t see you being a role similar to being “goo” as a good reason to lie. Sounds like your claiming ascetic which is usually a go to scum claim.
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@Mikal
I never remember Ragnar being active or high energy lol.
He's had his games where he's more active, but most of my experience with him has been low activity.
Both around the opinion on ultra. Both seemed like opportunistic pushes but left open enough to back off if needed. Like fishing for a wagon
I don't think I pushed on Ultra, but yes, we both discussed opinions regarding the timing of his arrival and his claim.
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@Lunatic
You said I was being passive and also not letting things go naturally at the same time. That is a gaslighting conundrum.
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@Lunatic
Okay. Well I am not claiming that is all.
Maximum I will character claim and that will hint at a role anyway.
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@AdaptableRatman
You said I was being passive and also not letting things go naturally at the same time. That is a gaslighting conundrum.
That’s not what gaslighting is, and not what I said. I said you are trying to tell town how to read you instead of just being yourself and letting us come to our own conclusions like we did last game. It doesn’t read as natural
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@Mikal
@AdaptableRatman
Lunatic is fabricating reasons to vote me after I made it clear Scum not knowing my role hurts them.
Doesn't seem fabricated to me. I don't see you as scummy, but I understand where he's coming from.
I will lie. I guarantee it.I may be protective btw. I have my reasons to not out. I may be 2x, even nights, other things.Utility is more likely what I am, in the pool of roles.My character is also problematic to claim.
You've thrown out a lot of potential claims, so I don't know why suggesting possible areas your role falls into helps at this point. All you're doing is slightly restricting what you could claim, and not to a point I'd consider meaningful.