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@WyIted
Iow you know very little about me.
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@IlDiavolo
There was and is a "nation of Israel" but the current political entity in the mid east is the STATE of Israel.
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@AdaptableRatman
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@Dr.Franklin
Do you know what Caths did not just in Crusades but even afterwards, to both Islam and Judaism?
Pope can say stop the war all he wants, look at our past. We did not shy away from war when it was needed, least of all defensively.
Iran brags about how it wants to annihilate Israel and funds both Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel has actually more justification to this war than you'd expect.
The Hamas and Hezbollah attacks are all funded and okayed by Iran who gets to safely sit back and watch. If it was not for oron dome, Israel would be annihilated and you would see whar savage brutes Iranian military are then as they storm in.
I do not have much sympathy here. This is genuinely what happens when you brag about how you will end Israel's existence by any means necessary for decades and also threaten US openly too.
If Europe sides against Israel here, they are led by shortsighted leaders. Iran loathes the West and is evil to the core. I think many Iranian/Persian Christians have prayed for the leadership to be couped... Tick tock. ✝️🙏🥋🇮🇱
Iran, the U.S., China, France, Germany, Russia and the United Kingdom signed the Iran Nuclear deal in 2015. It severely limited Iran’s capacity to enrich uranium and mandated that international inspectors monitor and enforce Iran's compliance with the agreement.
In return, Iran was granted relief from international and U.S. economic sanctions. Though the inspectors regularly certified that Iran was abiding by the agreement’s terms, President Donald Trump withdrew from the agreement in May 2018.
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@zedvictor4
Israel was one of many tribes of nomadic desert dwellers.
Israel was 12 tribes of its own, Jews being only of the tribe of Judah, the fourth of Israel's [formerly. Jacob] 12 sons.
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@FLRW
Though the inspectors regularly certified that Iran was abiding by the agreement’s terms,
What did Iran pay the inspectors for that approval? Our own investigation was sufficient to demonstrate Iran never intended to, and did not abide by the deal, or they would not have thieved what they have achieved in nuclear enrichment.
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@fauxlaw
This is inaccurate. There were 12 or 13 tribes and they all lived in the land. The nation split into two kingdoms and the Southern Kingdom was the kingdom of Judah. It had primarily people from the tribe of Judah but also from alevi, Benjamin and some refugees from other tribes. Modern Jews are from that kingdom, but not necessarily the tribe of Judah.
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@rosends
That is inaccurate, as well. I know I generalized; I am ware of the general public to whom these posts broadcast. Yes, the tribe of Joseph was ultimately split by Jacob, who effectively adopted Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, making, effectively, 13 tribes, but the Tribe of Levi, being the tribe that carried the priesthood authority, was split among the other twelve to reside in each of their lands, such that historically, there were but twelve tribes occupying land by name. Those lands ultimately organized into two kingdoms,, as you said. However, modern Jews are note necessarily only from the tribe of Judah, but also Christians and gentiles who convert to Judaism, and some latent members of the other tribes.
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@fauxlaw
The tribes were counted as 12 in 2 different ways, depending on the purpose of the counting.
And yes, modern Judaism also has converts and the children of converts. The point was that it is not only the tribe of Judah which created Jews.
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@WyIted
Pretty faggy.
Correct .
Ted cruz's daughter.
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@AdaptableRatman
What is the nation of Israel then?
It is a nation named Israel. It even calls itself - Israelies - not Israelites. Of course, that might just be a culture and time thing.
Biblically, there have been many times when the nation of Israel brought judgment on itself for idolatry, for desertion of God, for siding with its enemies.
And God promised that if and when this happened, he would punish it. Historically, this has happened, within the pages of the OT, several times. They were punished by the Assyrians. By the Babylonians. By the Egyptians, and eventually by the Romans.
They were removed, and then they went back. And then they were destroyed.
The point is, though. They didn't just get to go back unless they repented of their sins. The OT cases - they repented first - and then God brought them back. God expects an apology - a genuine and sincere one. And historically, in the case of the OT times, Israel and its leaders did repent.
The nation of Israel - in the time of the Romans, or whatever it was called, had been invaded by the Romans. This too was judgment for their sins. And they had an expectation of the Messiah coming to save them somehow - a king who would rise up and help them gain their land back. In the NT - this expectation is realised in many ways and evident even in their response to John the Baptist. He came in accordance with the OT prophecies - a voice in the wilderness - and preached a baptism for repentance. And many people came - "all of Judea came". And perhaps there was a sense that God might bless them with the messiah and everything would be fine. (The OT Prophecies about the Messiah was never about temporal blessings and a king sitting on a throne in a literal Jerusalem - it was always much bigger and grander than that - since his role wasn't to save them from the Romans but from their sins - the very reason they kept committing idolatry and breaking God's laws. His role was to come and baptise them with the Spirit of God - who would give them a new heart - one that was directed or reorientated towards God.
When the Messiah arrived of course - the people heard him and were glad - but the leaders in Israel rejected him and then so did the people. They put him on the cross and killed him.
This rejection of the messiah was their greatest sin - and so within a generation the temple was destroyed - the heart and soul of the Jewish religion - and the records kept in the Temple - proving genealogy was destroyed as well. Making it difficult for people to prove their Jewishness. Their connection to Israel.
Hence, the nation of Israel was effectively ended - and the people were dispersed all over the world, without a place to call home. Until they repented and turned back to God. This has never happened. The League of Nations - which then evolved into the UN - with the support of some British and Americans decided after WW2 - to help them find a land to call their own. Probably a lot of guilt towards them because of Hitler - they had several spots located - a place in Europe, a Place in America, a place in Australia, and the Middle East. For whatever reason, perhaps sentimental, they chose the Middle East. They never asked the Middle East what they thought of this idea.
And it didn't matter that Israel had only for a very short time occupied that land themselves- they plonked them there. Israel had never repented so this wasn't the blessing of God. It wasn't the fulfilment of prophecy. If anything, it was the result of guilt and rich white men wanting to feel like they were important.
The intriguing thing is this - many people who claim to be Jews or of Israelite descent are not. Many are. But not all are. They are a very diverse type. After all, what is an Israeli? Is it someone born in the nation known as Israel, no matter what your background is religiously, or biologically? When a Muslim of Lebanese extraction is born in Israel - are they considered Israeli? The distinction between Israeli and Jew is significant.
From a Christian point of view - the entire purpose of Christ as the Messiah was to break down the walls of division between humanity. It was actually part of his mission to move the focal point of God's religion from Israel to the entire world. He came to the Jews - because this was where the focal point existed at that time. Yet his death and resurrection - brought about the end of Israel as God's people - as the only representatives of his on this earth. Now the church has arisen, which is the rep of God's people. no longer just Jew - but Jew and Gentile. As Romans 10 puts it - the entire world was blessed because the Jews were cut off. But when they come back - in repentance - then the entire world will be blessed beyond all description.
The church was originally a Jewish cult. But as their theology became more consistent with the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, it grew and expanded. And now is multinational.
Today's Israel is a product of human invention and guilt. Do they have the right to exist? Yes. Do they have the right to defend themselves? Yes. Do they have the right to live in peace? Yes. But do they have the right to claim to be God's people? I don't think so. And does the church have the obligation and command to bless them? No. The church has the right and obligation to love all people - even their enemies. And that includes both the Jew and Hamas. And those in Iran and the Middle East.
This is the common Christian view for most of church history. The Dispensationalists differ. Yet their position is a very modern view- the 1800s. Schofield, Darby. Etc.
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@rosends
There was and is a "nation of Israel" but the current political entity in the mid east is the STATE of Israel.
And you are siding with who? Do you have anything to say about what Israel is doing along with the US?
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@WyIted
Since Muslims want to subject non Muslims to death or a type of taxation to exist they will just start trying to expand to western countries if Israel wasn't there to distract their evil intentions. I also doubt kikes are as stubborn. They aren't strapping bombs to their chests and then walking into highly populated areas
That's bullshit. Iran doesn't represent any threat. Without Israel in the Middle East, it would be the same thing at worst, meaning local wars between the Muslim countries, like in Africa. Although, some analysts are of the opinion that radical Muslim groups emerged because of the US and England messing on that region.
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@IlDiavolo
Siding with? I'm not sure what my choices are. I am glad that some countries are taking an active role in protecting my family and friends.
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@fauxlaw
OK.
So Israel was a tribal collective of nomadic desert dwellers, who eventually settled in an Eastern Mediterranean region, part or all of which at some point was referred to as Palestine.
As ever, regional conflict ensued as tribal collectives competed for land and resources.
Same old, same old the World over, to this day.
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@zedvictor4
Yeah, pretty much.
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@IlDiavolo
Two questions posed in the video.1. Is the current nation of Israel the same as the biblical Israel?2. Are Christians commanded to support Israel?I'm not a Christian, that's why I ask.
This shit don't even rise to the level of idiocy. Original Jews was black. These niggas a bunch of Pollacks. Give Israel to the niggas, then you gonna get blessed.
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@Lashwnda
Black people have smaller brains.
"A review of the world literature on brain size and IQ by Rushton [Rushton, J. P. (1995). Race, evolution, and behavior: a life history perspective. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction] found that African-descended people (Blacks) average cranial capacities of 1267 cm3, European-descended people (Whites) 1347 cm3, and East Asian-descended people (East Asians) 1364 cm3."
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@Lashwnda
Women also have smaller brains than men, so if you are a black woman, it means your brain is smaller than in black man and much smaller than in white man.
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@LucyStarfire
Black people have smaller brains."A review of the world literature on brain size and IQ by Rushton [Rushton, J. P. (1995). Race, evolution, and behavior: a life history perspective. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction] found that African-descended people (Blacks) average cranial capacities of 1267 cm3, European-descended people (Whites) 1347 cm3, and East Asian-descended people (East Asians) 1364 cm3.
Damn. That makes the fact that you're dumb as shit even more embarrassing. Stop hittin yoself baby. Marry a Chinese bitch. Get that average IQ perked up a bit and maybe them kids will have a chance to tangle with this big ole black dummy without embarassin themselves.
Might have to take a shower to land one of them though.
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@LucyStarfire
Hmmmmm, what could you have that is smaller than in a black man?
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@FLRW
Hmmmmm, what could you have that is smaller than in a black man?
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@Lashwnda
This shit don't even rise to the level of idiocy. Original Jews was black. These niggas a bunch of Pollacks. Give Israel to the niggas, then you gonna get blessed.
You're fkn right. Jesus was a negro (is this a slur, by the way?).
I still don't understand why most Christians think Jesus, aka the Christ, was a nordic-type white dude.
If there are white jews is because several Europeans turned into Judaism. So, most people that identify themselves as jews in Israel are not semites, strickly speaking. The excuse that the jews use to justify their occupation is absurd, they never belonged to the middle east.
If we follow the Biblical narrative, Abraham and Sara were Mesopotamian to start with, the 12 tribes took wives from local (Canaanean) tribes, the Israelis stayed in Egypt for some centuries, Moses married a Midianite (black?), and intermarriages appear to be frequent in the times of Joshua's conquest and later. So it appears that the answer is obvious: they were all shades of the Middle East.
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@Tradesecret
In 2025 what is the nation of Israel that Bible tells us to hold sacred and protect?
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@IlDiavolo
He was not black he was (and still is) a Jew.
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@AdaptableRatman
HAHA the crusades are the worst example to use for pro-israeli positions, you really wanna bring that up?
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@Dr.Franklin
Are you saying Catholicism is evil?
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@AdaptableRatman
no.