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@WyIted
I don't see how the Carlin video is support for your contention that only Liberals get offended.

If an Indonesian slaps another Indonesian is the second Indonesian going to be insulted or not? If u disagree, can u see how more abstractly it is possible for physical harm to be insulting to someone?  
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Oh youre a tankie?
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@WyIted
Micro principles would be things like social views political views concerning social issues for example the culture war, also small policy decisions would count as well the macro positions would be on freedom or justice with freedom being slightly more important than justice. Survival and health would be micro principles as would economics
I think any one of a person's actions can be viewed through morality's lenses, and they all contribute to that person's goodness or badness. Additionally, I don't think any action is permissible from being conceived from good or evil. Every action has an intention of good or bad
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@Skipper_Sr
Wouldn't you agree that the rich looked down on the poor somewhere in the world in the 15th century?
Okay probably. Looking down on somebody isn't an insult. You may want to look at the definition 



I don't think you understand the mindset of the slave, which did exist in the 15th century. I don't think u know how slaves feel if you say no one was insulted centuries ago 
You don't either. You were never a slave in the 15th century. I do know many slaves voluntarily died protecting their masters or commited suicide out of grief when a long time master died
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Tell your rebuttal to your cybersecurity course, use slurs and get kicked out.
Part of the rules is that I speak in a professional way but I do express the same opinions in written assignments. I am not sure what you're trying to prove here. If your point is that college operates in a fascist way than I would agree but it's still probably to a lesser extent than the work place
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So how should we feel a sense of pride and fulfilment for our debates here if the site is considered terrible to any college or workplace?
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@Castin
Fair enough. But just say you want carte blanche to act however the fuck you want because it's fun, dude. We don't need all this baloney about wanting to deradicalize anyone.
I don't want carte Blanche to act how you want that's why I wrote the COC to ensure mutual respect for each other, and radicalization is caused by being pushed into echo chambers. You get into areas gradually where purity spirals occur and this radicalization process happens. 

Terry Nichols didn't engage with anyone who could attack his premises. The Columbine kids had a philosophy they had perfected before their mass shooting. They didn't have anyone to push back on their nihilistic takes and they were nihilists, which is why the basement tapes weren't released. It was believed the basement tapes would cause more shootings because they were apparently pretty persuasive, but if they would have been allowed on Dart to express their disdain for humanity and none of these nihilistic takes can be challenged by your average person so you need to interact with debaters who are skilled in a variety of subjects.

Pedophiles is another example. There are a lot that seek help to avoid offending or to stop offending. These are referred to as non offending pedophiles. However there is a large group who just aren't welcome on your average forum where you could find people to debate with so they get pushed to corners of the internet where nobody is challenging their premises where they argue that pedophilia is healthy.

There is a very real threat of being pushed into ideological spirals by continually being pushed out of places that are capable of deradicalizing you to get pushed into new places where you gain points by being a purist. 

Yes there is a negative consequences of banning parody accounts for example but there are many other reasons why free speech is important and I do have lines I draw just not in what ideal can be expressed or in the words used to express those ideals. 

I think you were on DDO and saw the wide variety of opinions and the superior quality of debaters, so you know this is also true that it's good for the health of the site the weekly stupid for example was something that increased site engagement and was fun and this is coming from a guy who hated imabench. 

I know it's tempting to only think of the first order effects of banning words like nigger or banning racism in general in a site that literally requires unpopular opinions to be functional, but I urge you to think of the second order effects and give some push back on these dangerous ideals that are creating a sinking ship
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If an Indonesian slaps another Indonesian is the second Indonesian going to be insulted or not? If u disagree, can u see how more abstractly it is possible for physical harm to be insulting to someone?  
Insult means a word directed towards a person meant to offend. So know attacking somebody would not be an insult it would be a physical attack and those are banned here but don't fall under the definition 
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Wylted's got a soft spot for the creeps of the world. 
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Ya know as much of a lunatic as Wylted is, I don't think I've ever seen him take or give any real offense. It's just fuckery all day long. Very unique individual. 
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@WyIted
Pedophiles is another example. There are a lot that seek help to avoid offending or to stop offending. These are referred to as non offending pedophiles. However there is a large group who just aren't welcome on your average forum where you could find people to debate with so they get pushed to corners of the internet where nobody is challenging their premises where they argue that pedophilia is healthy.
There are plenty of people everywhere who argue for pedophilia, they just do it so indirectly that it cannot even be noticed by non-pedophiles because non-pedophiles dont get the hints. They are not going to say "pedophiles are cool", but will say things like "Love knows no age" or "Why do some 15 year olds try to flirt with adults?"
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Oh youre a tankie?
To be serious, my political/historical views are kind of an odd fusion of Carlyle and Spengler at the moment. Great men tied up in cyclical history, able to emerge only in certain places and times, but constrained by multigenerational trends and overbearing historical force. I don't believe really in political ideology as a force that moves people and the world, the ideologies are epiphenomenal to deeper trends and the characteristics of their host civilizations.
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So how should we feel a sense of pride and fulfilment for our debates here if the site is considered terrible to any college or workplace?
You aren't putting a forum on your resume. This is for training your brain
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This site is funny!
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RM

Would you do a debate over the best direction for site?
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Meh. I am okay with trolls getting banned.
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Meh. I am okay with trolls getting banned
She wasnt banned for being a troll, but for being proud black woman and for expressing her skin color proudly with no shame. If they wanted to ban trolls, they would start with me, not her. But I am not black. I am white, and asian.
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@WyIted
Not a bad argument tbh. Coming from anyone else it might sound sincere too.

By all means, let's permit all manner of stereotypical niggamassabitch inflammatory garbage on the 0.6% chance we might deradicalize the next Columbine shooter.
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@Castin
By all means, let's permit all manner of stereotypical niggamassabitch inflammatory garbage on the 0.6% chance we might deradicalize the next Columbine shooter.
The next time there's a mass shooting, nobody else will understand why. But we will.
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The next time there's a mass shooting, nobody else will understand why. But we will.
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@Castin
Even if we don't stop a shooter why would you prefer more radicalized people to exist?

Why would you prefer the site to be lower IQ like it is now than what it was like in its glory days?
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Also why would you care more about the sincerity of an argument than it being factually accurate?
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Because if the argument is sincere than there is the opportunity for productive discourse. When it isnt then the only thing that matters is what the proponent wants and its a lot harder to change what somebody wants than it is to change their mind.
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@ultramaximus2
All morality arguments are based on what people want, as moral goalposts are essentially wants.
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@LucyStarfire
You should talk to the mods about this issue if you take it seriously 
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You should talk to the mods about this issue if you take it seriously
The only moderators I talk to are Barney and Whiteflame. But I have more important issues to discuss than site's issues.
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@WyIted
I think more than liberals get offended by being called insults 
An insult would be if somebody walked up and called me a stupid cracker. Now if somebody said "white people are stupid crackers" that would not be an insult. 
You think the N word is OK, but not the word cracker?

So, if I called you a stupid trailer park white trash racist, that would be OK, as long as I don't say cracker?
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She wasnt banned for being a troll, but for being proud black woman and for expressing her skin color proudly with no shame. If they wanted to ban trolls, they would start with me, not her. But I am not black. I am white, and asian.
LOL, if you think Leshwanda was not a troll, then you should be glad you can't be banned for being stupid.
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@Sidewalker
LOL, if you think Leshwanda was not a troll, then you should be glad you can't be banned for being stupid.
You call me stupid, but you overestimate me.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Aren’t Lashwnda and Wylted the same person? 
Of course they are.  It violated the COC in both inbeing the "worst form of trolling,,,posting irrelevant or inflammatory content" AND "impersonation (pretending to be someone else).  

"We do not permit the worst forms of trolling, such as spamming, posting irrelevant or inflammatory content"
"impersonation (pretending to be someone else) are strictly prohibited on DebateArt.com"