Proposal to Policy Lynch Players Who Are Disrupting the Game as Meta

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Proposal to Policy Lynch Players Who Are Disrupting the Game as Meta

I’m proposing a meta to policy lynch players who are intentionally throwing, detracting from the game, or otherwise functioning as a net negative to the town. This does not mean policy lynching someone who is lying, or policy lynching someone who refuses to claim or is not telling the truth. There are obviously sometimes valid reasons for that. Instead, I’m using RMS's behavior from the last game as an example of when a policy lynch is necessary. There were 30 pages of posts, 70% of which were fluff and not game-related. There were very little actual reads, just OMGUS, continual spam, and discussions about religion and how he was a victim. The issue is that this type of behavior clogs up the game and makes it unenjoyable to participate in. It becomes nearly impossible to keep up with, and it fucks over the town, because they’re forced to sift through all the spam, making it easy to miss important game-related information. When this type of behavior is present, the player needs to be policy lynched (not banned) even if it costs town the game. If it continues and never stops, then we can blacklist the player. This gives them a chance to remediate their behavior and lets the mafia community take a stand against someone hijacking the game with game terrorism. These policy lynches should not be AI, and should be agreed upon by a majority of people in the game.

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It's rare when stuff like this occurs, but yeah it's something we do and have always done, and I will always support it. 
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Just posting for this to be locked in as meta. If someone is doing this. That lynch should be largely ignored as not AI and the game moves on. Posting more to get a general consensus. I know you and I would do it, likely pie. But this should be SOP. Last game made me want to punch myself in the face. 
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I dont play anymore, but yeah, anyone who obviously puts town at disadvantage should just get 5 votes on him.
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Who was your other account when you played?
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Just have a formal debate to settle this already.
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Best Korea
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I would totally do a formal debate that his behavior is a net negative to mafia and the forums 
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Do you accept Mikal's debate challenge?
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@ me again to this garbage tip and I block
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I accept nothing at all.

I have dealt with enough abuse stop enabling my abuser who I blocked. It is very simple.
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I have dealt with enough abuse stop enabling my abuser who I blocked
Another abuser???

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Debate 

Resolved: Rational Madman’s behavior is a net negative for the site. 

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If he will send it. I am game to un retire for one debate 
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Would also run 

Resolved: Rational Madman is not being unfairly abused. 
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I have run a test and now I have confirmed the abuse is systemic not solely some trolls. Its top down abuse with the head mod aiding and abetting it.
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Okay I accept the debate but I want it as a judge debate and want 0 of my abusers or abetters on the judge panel.
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Who would you accept as a judge?
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Anyone who is not abusing me or abetting it.
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You are an abetter. I also consider you an abuser actually due to other reasons.
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@AdaptableRatman
Ok but what are some examples of users who could judge?
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I dont want the debate.

My abuser is baiting me to degrade andnuoset me and laugh while undermining my pain as people cheer him on and sadistically abuse me more and gaslight me to believe it isnt abuse.

I have no urge to undergo that torment.

So why would I encourage it?

If this sadist who could only rise in DDO as Max enabled votebombing for him wants to debate he is welcome to. He is accustomed to environments where head mods bend to his will. He has barely any self esteem outside of situations like this Im quite sure. He gets off on the fact he can abuse in ways others get banned or warned to get muted if they fight back.
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Think of it this way: he has more to lose in a debate given his record as a good debater. And if you pick three neutral judges he can't use vote bombs.
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Would you trust fauxlaw to judge?
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@Savant
Notice how he wants the debate about me.

Lets make it about him, a guy who got made homeless hy his Christian parents because he couldnt keep his dick in his pants and begged DDO for money. Lets bring out his full history and lay it out crystal clear.
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@AdaptableRatman
What topic are you proposing?
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Sure Fauxlaw cannjudge. I want it 2way. I want to full callout Mikal without any holds. I want to expose this guy for who and what he truly is. 2 way callout 
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Dont care. The debate is irrelevant. 
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What about "Who is the bigger gamethrower: Mikal or AdaptableRatman?"

Fauxlaw can be the judge unless you come up with two others.
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No. Better person.