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If I didn’t mention anyone I’m probably null of them. Sorry for the sparse activity and responses but my commute + work + after work routine only leaves me with so many hours in the day
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@Earth
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At this point, I want a character claim from Vader. He's posted the least and was one of the last people to soft claim his character. Then he came in and gave surface-level reads on only a few people. If he's not going to say anything about his role or give detailed reads, we either demand a character claim or give him the benefit of the doubt, and I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

VTL Vader
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Vote count?
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@Vader
I’m a bit concerned about the mod kill version of the PM. Seems like a a weird oddity that I’ve never experienced in a game. In fact Speedrace did something similiar where he faked a mod kill to garner town cred so I could 100% buy Wylted is doing this 
It's a common way for Actor to work. Basically, it prevents easy role confirmation. I included a version of it that was basically exactly the same in my US Presidential Elections Mafia, only there I incorrectly called it 'Hammerer'. 
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@Savant
You still scum read Mikal, right? Why not go after him instead? I know it's pretty typical for us to try and get three claims DP1, but I honestly feel like it's a pretty lazy meta, especially when the only real reason to sus Vader that I can see is him claiming late and being relatively low activity - neither of these things are unusual coming from Vader, whose activity tends to come in spurts. I'd rather go after someone like Mikal who's actually hard for me to read.
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Just to note, I have no desire to claim and prob will just eat the policy lynch 
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@Casey_Risk
You still scum read Mikal, right?
I'm less confident about him now, especially since I largely agree with his read on banana now, even if it's for different reasons. I think Mikal is just hard for me to read. And since no active player is sticking out to me as scummy, I really need information on everyone before I can confidently have a town or scum block, inactives have tripped me up before.
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super is always my hardest person to read. He copies reads and is very basic with what he posts and does it as town or mafia and has been doing it since I played with him the first time years ago. It’s a very lazy style of play but it’s very effective with being difficult to read because it’s not really AI for him. 

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@Savant
Pretty jumpy to now pivot to me to claim. I gave my reasonings for not wanting to claim and I will not being so this DP. If I am lynched that's fine. I want to ensure my POE is narrowed in DP2 and then I have no problem full claiming. 

My reads are pretty much word for word what your read descriptions well. I am not gonna justify a null read when I have nothing to say.  It's useless clutter that takes away from the key points
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@Mikal
super is always my hardest person to read. He copies reads and is very basic with what he posts and does it as town or mafia and has been doing it since I played with him the first time years ago.
Interesting, I feel like Vader is actually one of the easier players to read here. I actually found it a little embarrassing in retrospect that I didn't clock him as mafia in the last game I played with him, as it felt fairly obvious in retrospect.
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I mean there's only so much I can say that hasn't be said when I am needing to catch up. I noticed the behavior switch on page 6ish but you already pointed out. The con of catching up I guess. I don't tend to big brain responses and come up with crazy theories, or if I do have a crazy theory it stays that way because the odds of it being the truth are low to none. In mafia, as town, you are looking to discover the truth and anything that roadblocks you from the truth just benefits mafia
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@Vader
Pretty jumpy to now pivot to me to claim.
You were already in my PoE. With my town read on banana, that leaves you, Earth, and Mikal giving me the fewest reasons to town read you. And you've posted less than either of them.

I gave my reasonings for not wanting to claim and I will not being so this DP.
If you have a power role or something, then don't claim it. Just your character.
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@Savant
You just had a scum read on banana page 9

Banana - Scum Lean - The more I look back at her posts, the more opportunistic the behavior seems. I've been scum read as town by town players before, but usually there's at least some logic to the accusation. In banana's case, she seem to be deliberately misinterpreting posts, such as claiming that Mikal was scum reading me and then stopped or criticizing that I null read inactives and then further scum reading me when I mentioned inactives in response to that point.
Mikal - Scum Lean - The stuff he says about reaction tests not being a real reaction test still doesn't make sense to me, and his largely just agreeing with a lot of what Pie said felt a bit like buddying. Seems to be playing the game fairly opportunistically.

Now after 35 posts and a character claim now you decide to flip town. Seems like atp your fishing for claims IMO
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My character gives away my role
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after 35 posts and a character claim now you decide to flip town
Yes, I scum read banana and then changed my mind after her character claim. Now you're in my PoE and I want a character claim from you. What a hypocrite I am.
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@Vader
My character gives away my role
Then soft claim something about your character you can't take back later. I looked it up and J is the most common first letter for names, plus you claimed late after ensuring there were no conflicts. Rn you have a ton of fake claims to choose from, especially with how loose the connection to autism seems to be.
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Really did not want to give more than a J for my soft claim. I don't want anything that gives away my character too much so I'll say that my character is likely someone everyone in this forum has heard of if I'm guessing and is a guy
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Also if i fullclaim DP2 and I get roleblocked I am tunneling Savant to hell and back and my town read on Mikal is going to become a scum read. 

- Mikal thinks he knows my character already and was the first to ping, I already soft'd my char gives away my role so if he knows it then the dots can connect
- Savant's pressure to get more claims and get more info is scummy as hell. But I wont fully scum read it until I get some np result or any sorts
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Mikal is still null but his logic seems very towny but I was a bit thrown off by him guessing the character. I also know by #348 I think I am probably going to get my action blocked. I'm tempted to void the action tonight tbh but have to sit on it some more
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I really don't like how the switch up of Savant to pushing for banana and in a scum read because of behavior to then claiming town because of the claim is not sus to anyone else but it threw me for loop. Normally I am not on omgus timing but that really just flicked a light in my brain
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@Vader
My character gives away my role
my character is likely someone everyone in this forum has heard of if I'm guessing and is a guy
Fine, that locks your claim in a decent amount.
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Alright gonna refresh the page one last time to see if any response before I head out to play volleyball
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@Vader
Are you role confirmable? If you are, I'm fine leaving you alone this day phase.
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@Savant
It is situationally dependent. I can be role confirmed by it
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It is situationally dependent. I can be role confirmed by it
I'm fine leaving you alone for now and revisiting this dp2 then.
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It's still a 100% power role that has mega utility

Probs gonna get RB'd for that now or some bullshit will happen where my action won't go thru bc I had to give more info. Smh
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@Vader
It's still a 100% power role that has mega utility

Probs gonna get RB'd for that now or some bullshit will happen where my action won't go thru bc I had to give more info.
I literally never asked you if it was a power role or how much utility it had, but ok then.
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Catching up now
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@Mikal
Just curious if he’s bullshitting. Accomplishes the same thing and if he’s not dead. You really press 
That doesn’t make any sense. If you think he’s scum, we lynch him, and we put people on the record as lynching him. If he flips town, we gain information.