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Unblock me and I’ll draft up the challenge and we can correct as needed 

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No I wont
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You are a corrupt individual with a malicious agenda.

If the site ran how you wanted, your fake freedom would work by bullying and 2 tier moderating just as it did on DDO and now is here.
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You are not for freedom, never have been. You are for legalised abuse so that the bullies enforce the rules.
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Well are you going to accept it or am I going back to blocking you and we forget it. Offering you a chance to present your take openly with no focus on you at all. It’s your chance to sell your version for everyone to see and it would be good for the site to have a boosted debate since it will be relevant when david takes over. Do you accept or no?
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If you don’t accept. I’m just going to largely pretend you don’t exist as you have no desire to even defend your own position that you are advocating for. Grow a set and actually debate something that you care about 
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@Mikal
Perhaps he would be willing to accept if it was rated.

If you recreate it, then tag him in the comments, it might work.
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He either will or he won’t and he likely won’t. He just wants to pretend to be a victim his entire life and when presented the chance to actually debate the topic that he spends every day complaining about, he won’t. Largely because he knows he cannot coherently defend it and would much rather live in a lie where people are bullying him than actually back up what he says about the change he’s proposing. It’s on him if he wants to always run away instead of defending a position he is suppose to care about. 
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@Mikal
Yeah, I suppose you're right about that. 
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It be like that. Just makes him look stupid when it’s all he ever talks about. Makes a thread about change and just never stops bitching about harsher moderation and then when asked to back his position up, he does what he always does. Points at the person saying debate me about the topic and calls them a bully. Why? Because it’s easier to do that and run instead of having a backbone and actually trying to defend his position which he continually has proved, he’s not capable of. 
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RM honest question. Why would David or anyone ever take you seriously or actually consider any input you have if you are not even willing to defend it. I ask again, stop being a bish and grow a sac. Be a man. It will not be about you at all and about the direction of the site. You say you want to stand up to people, and you won’t even stand up for yourself. Debate me and actually make a coherent case for the drool that you type all day, everyday. 
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The sad part is that 2 years ago, I was perhaps the harshest towards him and the one he describes as having bullied him the worst. (With the exception of Bench or Ramshutu perhaps, but I wasn't around for those rivalries.): There are necessary clarifications about the Lancelot ban needed to be made by mods.


I returned here recently; he came back after I did. I tried extending an olive branch and being civil, but then it didn't work out. Especially when he tried the coup thing on whiteflame. 

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People that want to be a victim will always be a victim. Most people make mistakes, learn, and grow. He has continued to be stagnant or went backwards and his only comfort in life is painting himself to be the abused. I’ve been nice to him, and whether he thinks so or not, don’t actually dislike him. He’s just proven again and again that he’s not capable of change. So it’s the same ole song and dance. I’m the bad guy for asking him to defend a position he cares about. Why? Because he can’t defend it and any challenge or disagreement with him is attacking him. 
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@Mikal
Yeah. I believe you and I are on the same page about him.

His worldview is genuinely so black and white, that he categorizes people as either friends or enemies. Whereas I don't really see him as either. 
At best, I see him as okay. Perhaps tolerable. But at worst, he's someone with a savior complex that is always playing victim. 
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I def don’t consider him a friend. He’s never given me a reason to be one to him. I don’t dislike him. I’d only add that he either likes you if you agree with him or thinks you are attacking him if you disagree. That is the black and white. 
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You can defend your view in a forum thread or ad hom attack me.
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Or you can actually defend it in a debate where you have to do more than say you are being bullied and present an actual case for your position. 
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@Mikal
There is a discord server that David owns, that Savant and everyone else is working very hard on. You are invited if you want to join. 

Adaptable will eventually rejoin, just not now. 
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Mikal you must make the debate and wait. Im nit accepting it now
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I think everyone but you is fine with the moderation, and when you were offered a chance to bring your complaints to them in a reasonable way, you refused. In my eyes you are surrendering your right to continuously complain. 

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That is fine. Who are they? David alone will own the website. He is a he.

If you think I forfeited something that does not affect the reality.
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If you think I forfeited something that does not affect the reality.
But technically you did

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I’m not going to waste my time making a debate you aren’t going to accept. When you actually decide to man up and defend your position. Let me know 
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You are talking to someone who even accepted debate he figured he definitely could lose, rated ones.

If we talk bravery or your sexist adjective manliness, I am far manlier.

Youre some forum games geek here. I am the real deal that readily enters the debate arena. You are some oldtime vet drunk at the bar telling about your glory days on ddo.
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When you grow a sac lmk. Or you can keep yapping and look stupid. 
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I think Mikal just wants some confirmation the debate will actually be accepted. AR, would you be fine accepting with a week argument time and going second? That gives you at least a week, maybe two to submit while also giving Mikal some assurance he isn't coming out of retirement for nothing.
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AR has said he's fine with fauxlaw, he's friended TheRizzler and David so he's probably fine with them as judges too.

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Buddy idc how many upvotes he gets and I dont get.

This is a guy with 0 debates trying to step to the renowned guy here who will step to anyone any time as long as he agreed to the terms.

It could not get funnier.
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This is a guy with 0 debates trying to step to the renowned guy here
He has debates on ddo, but I'm assuming you don't count those because of vote bombing or something? This is your chance to prove he can't beat you on DART. Send a challenge and make him be the one who chickens out.
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@Savant
So did I. DDO already was dying in 2015. This guy has basically not debated for at least 9 years.