Guns aren't about freedom—it’s about a fantasy of rebellion you’ll never have the balls to start.

Author: WyIted

Posts

Total: 13
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 37
Posts: 8,808
4
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
4
4
9
  • In a gun-saturated culture, especially in places with loose carry laws, every confrontation carries the implicit threat of violence.
  • People avoid honest confrontations, social correction, or speaking truth to power—not because they’re cowards, but because they’re calculating survival.
  • This creates a chilling effect: not from government, but from your neighbors.


  • Funny how people scream ‘muh free speech’ but you can’t even honk at someone without worrying they’ll shoot you. That’s not freedom—that’s hostage culture
    AdaptableRatman
    AdaptableRatman's avatar
    Debates: 22
    Posts: 2,384
    3
    4
    8
    AdaptableRatman's avatar
    AdaptableRatman
    3
    4
    8
    -->
    @WyIted
    Have you unironically realised this?
    WyIted
    WyIted's avatar
    Debates: 37
    Posts: 8,808
    4
    4
    9
    WyIted's avatar
    WyIted
    4
    4
    9
    -->
    @AdaptableRatman
    I am just here to give arguments my man. 
    AdaptableRatman
    AdaptableRatman's avatar
    Debates: 22
    Posts: 2,384
    3
    4
    8
    AdaptableRatman's avatar
    AdaptableRatman
    3
    4
    8
    Another thing. In West Europe and Scandinavia generally you can use our inbuilt instincts to size up your opponent. Bigger, stronger vs worse cardio probability etc. I can eye you down to your feet as I pass right beside you and use my ears or peripheral vision to be ready to react if you try pickpocket or pull funny stuff reaching for a melee weapon.

    In US you have a one shot kill weapon that works from far behind me and in front of me which means I cannot weigh a small man that differently to a large one and space differently even being willing to step onto the road for the larger one if it is safe to.

    Now imagine your wife and kids are beside you.
    ResurgetExFavilla
    ResurgetExFavilla's avatar
    Debates: 0
    Posts: 665
    3
    2
    7
    ResurgetExFavilla's avatar
    ResurgetExFavilla
    3
    2
    7
    I went to a bougie shooting range with a friend and the difference between that and the rural gun culture I grew up with was shocking. Guns were like an expensive fashion accessory, and the whole 'rebel Amurikan' aesthetic was turned into a fashion brand for people who live in McMansions. I feel like I understood how black people feel about minstrel shows. People shot guns in my area because they wanted to shoot squirrels, or muskrats, or ducks, or deer, or their neighbors. The gun was just a tool, not a cutesy lifestyle.

    Also, the guns had a dampening effect mostly on assaults. I still remember when some 80 year old vet feigned frailty before pistol whipping some 'city youth' who had come up into the sticks looking for a soft target to carjack. Similar thing happened with this nondescript old timer who used to train with Joe Frazier back in the day - beat the shit out of a couple of city kids who were fucking with him. Did people still shit talk each other? Sure. But there were lines you didn't cross, and it cut down hugely on physical violence.
    badger
    badger's avatar
    Debates: 0
    Posts: 2,450
    3
    3
    3
    badger's avatar
    badger
    3
    3
    3
    Guns are an analogue for the prisoner's dilemma. One of my better ideas tbh. A cop pulls up to a scene, he's much more likely to shoot someone because he expects everyone has guns. Any confrontation, guns are pulled, because either you're pulling it or you're having it pulled on you. Sure, at an individual level, it makes sense to go get yourself a gun. But then everyone does. Then you got a bunch of demented kids bringing them to school.

    You got a bunch of countries screaming death to America. You got all your neighbours armed to the teeth to kill you. You live in the most hyper individualistic country in the world, no healthcare, no free college, nothing. No wonder your kids are nuts.

    America is the sacrificial lamb of the world. Give yourselves a break.
    LucyStarfire
    LucyStarfire's avatar
    Debates: 6
    Posts: 898
    3
    3
    7
    LucyStarfire's avatar
    LucyStarfire
    3
    3
    7
    -->
    @WyIted
    USA is number 1 by far in GDP.

    Ultracrepidarian
    Ultracrepidarian's avatar
    Debates: 0
    Posts: 115
    0
    1
    5
    Ultracrepidarian's avatar
    Ultracrepidarian
    0
    1
    5
    You know what they say, never bring an assault rifle to a drone fight  

    FLRW
    FLRW's avatar
    Debates: 0
    Posts: 8,175
    3
    4
    8
    FLRW's avatar
    FLRW
    3
    4
    8
    -->
    @LucyStarfire

     Yes, but in the first quarter of 2025, the U.S. real GDP decreased at an annual rate of 0.5 percent. 
    LucyStarfire
    LucyStarfire's avatar
    Debates: 6
    Posts: 898
    3
    3
    7
    LucyStarfire's avatar
    LucyStarfire
    3
    3
    7
    -->
    @FLRW
    USA has bigger GDP than entire Europe combined.
    fauxlaw
    fauxlaw's avatar
    Debates: 80
    Posts: 4,256
    4
    7
    10
    fauxlaw's avatar
    fauxlaw
    4
    7
    10
    -->
    @WyIted
    hostage culture is next to postal culture
    FLRW
    FLRW's avatar
    Debates: 0
    Posts: 8,175
    3
    4
    8
    FLRW's avatar
    FLRW
    3
    4
    8

    Does anyone know where you can buy those missing Russian suitcase nuclear bombs?
    Sidewalker
    Sidewalker's avatar
    Debates: 8
    Posts: 3,514
    3
    2
    5
    Sidewalker's avatar
    Sidewalker
    3
    2
    5
    -->
    @WyIted
  • In a gun-saturated culture, especially in places with loose carry laws, every confrontation carries the implicit threat of violence.
  • People avoid honest confrontations, social correction, or speaking truth to power—not because they’re cowards, but because they’re calculating survival.
  • This creates a chilling effect: not from government, but from your neighbors.
  • Funny how people scream ‘muh free speech’ but you can’t even honk at someone without worrying they’ll shoot you. That’s not freedom—that’s hostage culture
    Guns won't stop the violence; only more racism can stop the violence.