Funny how people scream ‘muh free speech’ but you can’t even honk at someone without worrying they’ll shoot you. That’s not freedom—that’s hostage culture
Guns aren't about freedom—it’s about a fantasy of rebellion you’ll never have the balls to start.
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@WyIted
Have you unironically realised this?
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@AdaptableRatman
I am just here to give arguments my man.
Another thing. In West Europe and Scandinavia generally you can use our inbuilt instincts to size up your opponent. Bigger, stronger vs worse cardio probability etc. I can eye you down to your feet as I pass right beside you and use my ears or peripheral vision to be ready to react if you try pickpocket or pull funny stuff reaching for a melee weapon.
In US you have a one shot kill weapon that works from far behind me and in front of me which means I cannot weigh a small man that differently to a large one and space differently even being willing to step onto the road for the larger one if it is safe to.
Now imagine your wife and kids are beside you.
I went to a bougie shooting range with a friend and the difference between that and the rural gun culture I grew up with was shocking. Guns were like an expensive fashion accessory, and the whole 'rebel Amurikan' aesthetic was turned into a fashion brand for people who live in McMansions. I feel like I understood how black people feel about minstrel shows. People shot guns in my area because they wanted to shoot squirrels, or muskrats, or ducks, or deer, or their neighbors. The gun was just a tool, not a cutesy lifestyle.
Also, the guns had a dampening effect mostly on assaults. I still remember when some 80 year old vet feigned frailty before pistol whipping some 'city youth' who had come up into the sticks looking for a soft target to carjack. Similar thing happened with this nondescript old timer who used to train with Joe Frazier back in the day - beat the shit out of a couple of city kids who were fucking with him. Did people still shit talk each other? Sure. But there were lines you didn't cross, and it cut down hugely on physical violence.
Guns are an analogue for the prisoner's dilemma. One of my better ideas tbh. A cop pulls up to a scene, he's much more likely to shoot someone because he expects everyone has guns. Any confrontation, guns are pulled, because either you're pulling it or you're having it pulled on you. Sure, at an individual level, it makes sense to go get yourself a gun. But then everyone does. Then you got a bunch of demented kids bringing them to school.
You got a bunch of countries screaming death to America. You got all your neighbours armed to the teeth to kill you. You live in the most hyper individualistic country in the world, no healthcare, no free college, nothing. No wonder your kids are nuts.
America is the sacrificial lamb of the world. Give yourselves a break.
America is the sacrificial lamb of the world. Give yourselves a break.
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@WyIted
USA is number 1 by far in GDP.
You know what they say, never bring an assault rifle to a drone fight
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@LucyStarfire
Yes, but in the first quarter of 2025, the U.S. real GDP decreased at an annual rate of 0.5 percent.
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@FLRW
USA has bigger GDP than entire Europe combined.
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@WyIted
hostage culture is next to postal culture
Does anyone know where you can buy those missing Russian suitcase nuclear bombs?
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@WyIted
In a gun-saturated culture, especially in places with loose carry laws, every confrontation carries the implicit threat of violence. People avoid honest confrontations, social correction, or speaking truth to power—not because they’re cowards, but because they’re calculating survival. This creates a chilling effect: not from government, but from your neighbors. Funny how people scream ‘muh free speech’ but you can’t even honk at someone without worrying they’ll shoot you. That’s not freedom—that’s hostage culture
Guns won't stop the violence; only more racism can stop the violence.
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@Sidewalker
Guns won't stop the violence; only more racism can stop the violence.
While killing all blacks while solve 50% of all violent crime according to FBI statistics, you will never get voters to agree to do it
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@WyIted
Guns won't stop the violence; only more racism can stop the violence.While killing all blacks while solve 50% of all violent crime according to FBI statistics, you will never get voters to agree to do it
MAGA gives a fuck about voters now? When did that change?
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@Sidewalker
It's a democracy. The Democrats actually support killing blacks through abortion buts it's a discreet enough method of genocide where it doesn't cost votes
Two firearms in to different hands = EQUALITY
One firearm in one hand = TYRANNY AND SLAVERY
Nah, the odds of getting shot for politely asking your neighbor to stop letting their dog poop in your yard, or turning down the volume on their boombox at 3 AM, are so slim as to not be taken seriously. The kind of people so unhinged that they would brandish a gun for being mildly confronted probably don't have guns anymore, because odds are that someone before you had the displeasure and said people are now barred from owning one. And those who killed for such a trifling reason are probably not your neighbors, because they're serving half a lifetime behind bars.
Every person has his threshold at which he'd be willing to shoot someone, but those with enough of a hair trigger temper (or sense of paranoia) that commonplace interactions set them off have effectively removed themselves from the equation. This gives people enough breathing room to say what they need to, when they need to, albeit perhaps with a healthy degree of self-control over the tone and phrasing.
But, it doesn't give them enough breathing room to feel safe acting as bullies, mercilessly harassing someone in person, or taking a swing at them. This is the way it ought to be. Guns afford you a right to be left alone that you don't have without. It doesn't matter how unpopular you are, or if some people in wider society have the notion that you are an acceptable target for mistreatment. When their behavior escalates to the point where you can less tolerate how they treat you than how the state would treat you, your gun ownership allows the problem to correct itself. When people have an accurate understanding of roughly how far they can provoke the average person, things settle into a reasonable equilibrium: a common sense understanding of how to treat other people.
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@WyIted
it's a discreet enough method of genocide where it doesn't cost votes
Considering that about 1M abortions per year since 1973 [the launch of Roe v Wade] that's about 50M potential voters lost, about 1/3 of which would vote Democrat, I'll wager Kamycakes wishes she had those votes, even considering that only about half of them would bother to vote.
I continue to be amused that many Democrats think guns are fearful objects even if just tucked in a pocket or purse. It's just a tool with no useful purpose of its own volition, so, why are they so afraid of it? They're the ones who claim a superior eduction, yet on this matter, they've tossed that out the window, even when their belief is a myth. That's what blue-state eduction is: a myth.
Every single blue state in existence has been a red state, and will be again, and vice versa.
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@sadolite
One firearm in one hand = TYRANNY AND SLAVERY
How do you figure? If someone wants to break into my house, and do so with nothing but a karate studio education, I can take him out from across the room. How is that tyranny and slavery? No, that's just stupid, and not on me. Got to assume anymore that it's a gunfight, boyo. But at 7,500 feet elevation in a mountain forest on 10 acres, in a stone fortress, I figure even finding my house is a chore not easily achieved. And even if it comes to that, I've had that martial education, too. I'm no Bruce Lee, but I am a big-boned 6'3" 210 lbs, not tossed like a rag doll
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@ResurgetExFavilla
@badger
Bougie?
Bourgeois?
I suppose certain necessity items and styles 'do become hobbies more than practical necessity, at certain points.
Same with lot of martial arts, swords, and bows.
Though I still see guns and freedom of what we are 'allowed to own, as necessities.
Be nice if the police acted more like the rest of us though, be polite and non-escalating with people and situations.
No reason to assume 'every car a police officer stops for not fully stopping at the stop sign, or a broken rear light. Contains a violent criminal.
I suppose some fixes could be more soft approach training, higher pay in exchange for being unarmed, robotic police officer drones controlled by real people.
I don't know about other police, but even if America had no guns, I could see American police being irritating about their authority and force.
175 days of voting left.
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@fauxlaw
I continue to be amused that many Democrats think guns are fearful objects even if just tucked in a pocket or purse. It's just a tool with no useful purpose of its own volition, so, why are they so afraid of it? They're the ones who claim a superior eduction, yet on this matter, they've tossed that out the window, even when their belief is a myth. That's what blue-state eduction is: a myth.
Tell me you've never been in a fight or flight situation for real, without telling me.
I have no objection to the right to bear guns in the US. In the end, it's part of the freedom Americans brag about so much as one of their main core values, for better or worse.
However, I think it's a contradiction that while Americans defend their right to carry guns, they are against other rights that many developed countries have, like the right to have sex in exchange of money, or prostitution if you will. I mean, what's the matter with that? On what grounds?
If you want to call the US a country of freedom, so be it in everything.
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@IlDiavolo
Good point,
Though. . . Thinking on it,
As big as America 'is about Freedom, there's 'always been limitations.
Colonial America was pretty Puritan, though of a number of different Christian Denominations. (I think)
Under God, and all that.
Even 'with religious freedom (To a degree)
Lot of laws were going to have their norms and starts in Christian thought and society around that time, maybe.
Course, we also have a number of laws on drugs.
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X is wrong, and we don't want to be around X.
Certain X's can be found in Religious 'or Atheist communities I think.
Just depends what the norms and surrounding values are, maybe.
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Some Americans 'are Libertarians.