Atypical DP3

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Dead players:

Earth- Daryl Hannah - 1x Victim (lynched dp1)

Mikal- Dr. Mary Temple Grandin- Non-Consecutive Doctor (Killed np1)

Ultra- You are Courtney Love! Courtney Love is a talented singer, songwriter, musician and actress. She was most famous for her band “Hole” which gained major success in the early 90’s. Courtney Love had a rough period in her life between 92-95 when she not only lost her husband to suicide, but also a band member, bassist Kirsten Pfaff who also died of a heroine addiction. Because this three year period was hard for Love, and she spent most of it on drugs or recovering from them, you are the confused townie. Your role will be hidden from you. Since Courtney Love bounced back from all her troubles in the early 2000’s, you will learn your role in the daytime if you survive until MYLO/LYLO. You win with the town.

Hidden Role: Love was married to Kurt Cobain, who killed himself while she was in rehab in April of ‘94. This sparked conspiracies theories from fans later that Love drove Cobain to suicide with her antics, as she was later seen going on disturbing rants on stage, yelling vulgarities at the crowd, and getting in fights with other performers. Many people to this day think Love is responsible for Cobain’s death, thus making you the Miller. You will automatically appear guilty to any investigations that occur. (lynched dp2)

Banana- You are Charles Darwin! Darwin was a brilliant naturalist and biologist who influenced the entire world’s viewpoint on human existence with his theories on evolution and natural selection. Darwin wrote a compelling book called “On the origin of species” in 1859, and by 1870 most of the scientific community accepted the theory of evolution as fact. Because many religious communities still outright reject evolution as a theory though, your findings are hit and miss in the general population. Because what is accepted as fact is relative to your audience, you are the amnesiac cop. Each night you may select a person to investigate as well as a person to publish your results to. You may not send results to the same person twice, and remember you can send results to the wrong person (mafia). They will receive the name of the person you investigated and will be told if that person is guilty or innocent. You win with the town. (Killed np2)



Living players:

1. Savant
2. Casey
3. iLikePie5
4. Wylted
5. Vader

Day phase two will end in 72 hours or on Thursday , the third at Noon EST.

With five players remaining it take 3 votes to cause a lynch.

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DP3 is up
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Aw you fuckin assholes. Fuck you scum. Sincerely fuck off. 

I was Vanillaized. 
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Casey was visited by Pie. Pretty sure an "innocent child" shouldn't be visiting anyone.
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Alright this is some stuff that I have to dissect. Pie now be vanillazed is quite convienant for his story. Not to mention Casey being visited by Pie as well

Banana was also killed in the NP as well. Very interesting stuff. I feel like there is some form of fuckery going on but I want to see. I think it is important now to lay every option out on the table. I don't think scum reads and town reads I had should be considered and we need to consider every option at this point
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What was your reasoning behind watching Casey over Banana?
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I received an item Casey claimed to give out, which role confirms Casey. And idk why scum would have the ability to hand out items.
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So here is my thought process. I think we have to look at 2 possibilities at this point in time

1. I think it is ultra convienant that Casey meant to give myself a BP vest then it got redirected to Savant which was then used to "role confirm" Casey. Then we go ahead in DP3 and now Savant, instead of targetting our only active investigative role besides himself, watches Casey and then conviently sees Pie visit Casey then. There is a bunch of flawed reasoning in that process and I am a bit curious. I want to hear what Casey did last night though and see what results they have. 

2. Savant is telling the truth and Pie visited Casey at some point. This can justify with my investigation that Pie is a scum JOAT and would coordinate to kind of a counter balance to Casey's role? I am not sure how that would work but I guess it could work for the most part. Pie has been a bit pushy and I think he has some of the behavioral tells of scum 

Let's look at the scenarios of what scum role could be. We know that a Framer exists in this game based on Ultra's turn so no matter what a Framer role HAS to exist. If Pie is telling the truth about what happened we know scum have some sort of Vanillizer role. Something I could totally see Luna doing for a scum team tbh. That would be an optimal setup for the amount of investigatives we have in this game. However, if Pie is lying and Savant is telling the truth, then it is a Redirector and a Framer role. Considering the sheer investigative power of the town at this point, that would honestly shock me. Decently balanced but also why wouldn't have Savant be targetted then?

I think we have some stuff to figure out

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Casey was visited by Pie. Pretty sure an "innocent child" shouldn't be visiting anyone.
I was told that I was roleblocked. So that checks out. Though my night action was to give a Strengthener to Banana, so it wouldn't have done anything anyway. I knew one of us was for sure going to be the night kill, I was just hoping it'd be me instead.

Anyway, I think that Pie is very obviously scum and Vader is almost certainly the partner. Not really sure how much there is to discuss here. 
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Let's look at the scenarios of what scum role could be. We know that a Framer exists in this game based on Ultra's turn so no matter what a Framer role HAS to exist.
What are you talking about? You need to reread the flip. Ultra was a hidden Miller.
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So Casey was conviently roleblocked this DP but then stated they wanted to target Banana. 

I do not buy it. At this point I am very much leaning toward Casey and Savant. There's too many issues in their statements and jumping to conclusions that would make me believe that they are not scum.

Anyway, for scum to then have a Roleblocker, Redirector, and Framer is a bit crazy. Luna does have a tendency to have roles where you get options as a scum team to use roles, but this is just wayyy to convienant and working in favor of a Casey/Savant team at this point. I want to hear from Wylted and Pie and gather there thoughts. I may have to re-evaulate some of my reads as well and look deeper into some posts
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A Hidden Miller role literally just proves my point even more except the fact there's no framer. Which I guess makes sense for a Roleblock and a Redirector to exist, but even still doesn't that seem somewhat underpowered? I am not buying it and I don't buy that Savant as tracker wanted to watch Casey over an un CC'd cop who was probably a NK target
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How do you feel about Savant not targetting an un CC'd cop in the NP? I personally think it's too convienant of an excuse to justify a mislynch on Pie but who knows

Also a note a scum Vanillizer and a Roleblock seems way more balanced compared to the other possibilities
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Also as a side note I will likely not be too active tomorrow. May pop in for about an hour or two but it's my going to be my birthday and will likely be on a golf course all day
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So Casey was conviently roleblocked this DP but then stated they wanted to target Banana.
Right, just ignore how INCREDIBLY convenient it is that Pie got Vanillaized last night. Nothing suspicious to see here folks.

I do not buy it. At this point I am very much leaning toward Casey and Savant. There's too many issues in their statements and jumping to conclusions that would make me believe that they are not scum.
This theory makes no sense. If Savant and I are the team, this game is easy af for me. I just let Ultra get lynched and coast through DP2, then get you or Wylted lynched today. Easy peasy. Why would I have drawn all that attention to myself yesterday concoting a theory about you and Pie (which I was very obviously right about) which would only make me look suspicious when no one would have sussed me if I had just stayed quiet? I mean, both Banana and Savant backed up my claims about NP1. No one would have had any real reason to sus me before I started theorizing. 
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A Hidden Miller role literally just proves my point even more except the fact there's no framer. Which I guess makes sense for a Roleblock and a Redirector to exist, but even still doesn't that seem somewhat underpowered?
We don't know what scum have, but I'm willing to bet money that they have some form of a JOAT. You should be considering this possibility, especially based on your own claimed results, but it's like you are pathologically unable to suspect Pie here. It's almost like you two are partners... 
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Honestly, I'm completely, 100% convinced at this point that I was right about my Pie/Vader theory. No reason not to do this now.

VTL Pie
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So Casey was conviently roleblocked this DP but then stated they wanted to target Banana.
Right, just ignore how INCREDIBLY convenient it is that Pie got Vanillaized last night. Nothing suspicious to see here folks.

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2. Savant is telling the truth and Pie visited Casey at some point. This can justify with my investigation that Pie is a scum JOAT and would coordinate to kind of a counter balance to Casey's role? I am not sure how that would work but I guess it could work for the most part. Pie has been a bit pushy and I think he has some of the behavioral tells of scum 

Let's look at the scenarios of what scum role could be. We know that a Framer exists in this game based on Ultra's turn so no matter what a Framer role HAS to exist. If Pie is telling the truth about what happened we know scum have some sort of Vanillizer role. Something I could totally see Luna doing for a scum team tbh. That would be an optimal setup for the amount of investigatives we have in this game. However, if Pie is lying and Savant is telling the truth, then it is a Redirector and a Framer role. Considering the sheer investigative power of the town at this point, that would honestly shock me. Decently balanced but also why wouldn't have Savant be targetted then?

I do not buy it. At this point I am very much leaning toward Casey and Savant. There's too many issues in their statements and jumping to conclusions that would make me believe that they are not scum.
This theory makes no sense. If Savant and I are the team, this game is easy af for me. I just let Ultra get lynched and coast through DP2, then get you or Wylted lynched today. Easy peasy. Why would I have drawn all that attention to myself yesterday concoting a theory about you and Pie (which I was very obviously right about) which would only make me look suspicious when no one would have sussed me if I had just stayed quiet? I mean, both Banana and Savant backed up my claims about NP1. No one would have had any real reason to sus me before I started theorizing. 
You literally did it to set up a mislynch against Pie using your roles. As I said before. This game is extremely easy. You consistently said we need to lynch Ultra and then theorized about a possible mislynches then acted on it by outting fake results and vanillizing Pie. Pretty easy coast thru tbh
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#3 from Pie is such a fake reaction lol
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A Hidden Miller role literally just proves my point even more except the fact there's no framer. Which I guess makes sense for a Roleblock and a Redirector to exist, but even still doesn't that seem somewhat underpowered?
We don't know what scum have, but I'm willing to bet money that they have some form of a JOAT. You should be considering this possibility, especially based on your own claimed results, but it's like you are pathologically unable to suspect Pie here. It's almost like you two are partners... 

As I said, there is the possibility of scum having a JOAT. I haven't seen Pie even come in to defend himself. I'm going on the info I have. I am totally fine with a Pie lynch if I believe it's very viable. I am taking the time to dissect all this info as it given to me at this point and waiting to act. You seem to be the one that's eager to jump to conclusions. 
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We know that a Framer exists in this game based on Ultra's turn so no matter what a Framer role HAS to exist.
Ultra was a miller. Why does a framer need to exist?
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You literally did it to set up a mislynch against Pie using your roles.
Right, I did it to set up a mislynch against the person it would be hardest to get mislynched, instead of just going after an easy target like you or Wylted. You really believe that?

You consistently said we need to lynch Ultra and then theorized about a possible mislynches then acted on it by outting fake results and vanillizing Pie. Pretty easy coast thru tbh 
You're not making any sense. I was the only one directing attention AWAY from Ultra. And my results obviously weren't fake because Banana's role was real. 
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Let's say for a moment that Pie is scum. Who is the partner if not you?
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I don't buy that Savant as tracker wanted to watch Casey over an un CC'd cop who was probably a NK target
Except Casey is literally role confirmed to me, and it's a role I don't see scum having. Plus Ultra flipped innocent, so why would I trust banana who claimed responsibility for the fake result? Sure Casey was the one who received the result, but Casey also has a townie role. Why would scum hand out a bulletproof vest?
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Which I guess makes sense for a Roleblock and a Redirector to exist, but even still doesn't that seem somewhat underpowered?
Why do you assume that just because scum has roleblocker and redirector means they can't have any other abilities? They could have a JOAT for all we know.
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Don’t hammer me, the game is solved with Casey’s vote on me. I’m at work rn, so give me some time to explain how.
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Not voting until you give your reads and explain

I also want to hear Wylted's thoughts

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I don't buy that Savant as tracker wanted to watch Casey over an un CC'd cop who was probably a NK target
Except Casey is literally role confirmed to me

Again, you could be faking this as well. You're right but we have no one to verify this other than Casey themselves and that's it

As to why you should've targetted Casey, again, they were an un CC'd cop. Plus if they died and we saw the flip of the hidden miller from ultra, we would've known and we could've had useful results. I personally thought the obvious watch was Banana or Pie because of their roles... again way to convinenant when the only backup to your claim is yourselves