Should wives obey their husbands?

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Today we do not need any wife obeying a husband or vice versa
Sometimes one spouse has the better solution to a problem, and sometimes that spouse with a better solution is the husband. 

So if what you mean by “no need to obey” is that “women should never obey” I don’t think that’s the best answer because sometimes husbands are right about things 
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Will you support women that do obey their husbands?

Fortunately, British Society supports women who are abused by their husbands.

But of course a lot of abuse is hidden behind closed doors.


Other than that, people must make their own choices, and I support their right to choose.


Hopefully you support an individuals right to self determination.

Or is dominating women your thing?
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Ok so you do support women that obey their husbands.

Now you also support husbands to be the head of their wives, right.

So when you support something you believe in that something. You support being equal partners in a marriage, you believe in that.
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Should wives obey their virtuous husbands?
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So long story short, would you or would you not support women in their obedience to their husbands?

If you can't support that, speak on it.
Support is not the correct word here. Am i supposed to cheer for her? Would i mind? Not at all. 
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Should wives obey their virtuous husbands?
I think my answer would vary depending on what is implied by “virtuous.” Is this meaning portraying a superiority for one’s own moral standards, or are they indeed good moral standards? 

If the latter, I think it is wise to take the instruction of someone who has a well-developed moral compass
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Should wives obey their virtuous husbands?
LOL! just saw this
OBEY TO YOUR VIRTUOUS HUSBAND!!!
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As I stated, I support the right of the individual to be self-determining.

Therefore I'm not particularly impressed by old style religious patriarchy.


And you are obsessed with the futile concept of belief.

I do not believe anything Mall.

I either know something, or I do not.
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Do you support children obeying their parents?
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Let's see if you can just flat out say yes to this.

Do you support children obeying their parents?
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Do you support children obeying their parents?
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Do you support women that wish to obey their husbands?
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'Obey' seems a pretty rough word. Let's say children who listen to their parents. I of course agree that a child should listen to his parent. Although i still do not understand why i would have to cheer for him or 'support' him or whatever you mean by this.
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Do you support anything?
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I wear clothes that support something.
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Do you support children obeying their parents?
Yeah
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Do you support wives obeying their husbands?
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So you can support children obeying their parents as wives obeying their husbands. 
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Depends upon the parents and their demands.

There is a whole lot of difference between tidying a bedroom, and excessive physical and emotional demands.

As ever, you're trying to pigeonhole things that will never fit neatly into the pigeonhole.

Best case scenario is achieved through mutual respect and tolerance , rather than domination and obeyance.


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Do you support anything?
Of course i do. But why support wives who obey their virtuous husbands when i can support the orphans or volunteer at the church or spend my support for something more optimal?
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Children don’t totally equate to wife/mother in context of family dynamic 
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Do you support any child at all on the planet obeying the parent?

At least one child in the world, including you?
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Ok so you support orphans that obey their guardians, is that right?
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What's the difference in the Father leading the children in the right way of guidance and that same Father leading his wife that looks to him to do so?
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Ok so you support orphans that obey their guardians, is that right?
I said i would support orphans money wise. As in a contribution. Support. 
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Yes, that is a similarity. But the relationship the father has with his wife is different than the relationship with his children and same with the wife towards both types of people. 

The children (should) respect both parents, but the wife does not respect the children as authority figures   
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@Mall
"Obey" has a specific meaning and intention.

It would better to ask if children should always go along with parental guidance and demands.

And as I stated, that would depend upon the demands of the parent.

It's a two way relationship where respect is earned and not forced upon.

The enforcement of obeyance, will inevitably lead to resentment and a psychological breakdown in the relationship.


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It definitely should be earned and ideally her father and mother must permit the marriage to the man. If she has no contact with parents, a male that is significant in her life, or a female that is should approve of the marriage instead ideally.

I made this latter rule up, it is a good compromise. If that person says no, you have no right by my understanding of Christian law, to take her hand in marriage yet even if she says yes.

It must be that you earn the respect and apprival by proving you are worth it and a good influence on her as her masculine boyfriend having 0 sex with her yet.

This may sound like Islam but Islam got it from Judaic tradition actually, as did Christians. The difference is male fidelity matters a lot more to Christians.
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Do you support orphans even having guardians either?

Do you support obedience to authority period?

Are you a rebel?
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So yes it appears you agree there's no difference in the Father guiding the children as well as the wife so obedience does come into play of that.