Cool fighter jet
Free education or F22 raptor fleet?
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Education is generally free, you can use AI to learn anything. AI can even pilot those fighter jets.
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@LucyStarfire
AI is more like a curiosity extinguisher. University is the real deal.
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@Umbrellacorp
AI is more like a curiosity extinguisher. University is the real deal.
Not really. The only difference is people's dedication. If person spent years using AI to research topics taught at university, he would basically get the same thing. There is nothing in university which isnt on internet.
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@LucyStarfire
Okay so f22?
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@Umbrellacorp
Cool fighter jet
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@Umbrellacorp
Hmmm, educate thousands or kill thousands?
Free education plz
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@Umbrellacorp
I don't see the value in 'free education.
It's not 'free anyhow, costs money, just like the Raptors.
The 'Raptors 'generally speaking have a single purpose of defend one's country and dissuade one's enemies.
Free Education can be twisted, into teaching views and values contrary to ones own beliefs.
. . . Though I suppose I'm not sure what you 'mean by free education.
University?
Doesn't seem 'so valuable to me, paid trade school and internship, seems more valuable.
We 'already indoctrinate kids in Highschool and below, with basic civic values.
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@Umbrellacorp
Free universities is why people vote for fighter jets. If they had to pay for education, they wouldn't learn irrelevant things.
I thought the premise here was that a genie pops out of nowhere and offers me totally free education, anywhere I want to study, or a free fleet of F22's.
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@Umbrellacorp
It’s not free either way lol.
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@Castin
I thought the premise here was that a genie pops out of nowhere and offers me totally free education, anywhere I want to study, or a free fleet of F22's.
You could take the F-22s and sell them for billions.
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@Mharman
How dare you tell me what to do with my F22's
What if my gran left them to me
free education for all? if not, just sell one of the planes to cover your and others education, then use the rest for whatever floats your boat
The premise here is: would you rather have the government fund the whole f22 programe (~60b) or free community college programe (~60b)
Don't forget. F22s are really cool
If you think that you are getting something for free, then you are probably being taken advantage of. With the government-provided education, first, you do pay for it with taxes (and get overcharged), and second, you learn what politicians want you to learn, not what you want to learn. Want to learn cosmology, but you happen to be ruled by Islamic theocrats who believe the Earth was created? Bad luck.
If you want to be free, then you have to live your life on your terms, and for that, you have to have resources and choose what to spend them on. If your government chooses what you "buy" and when, then you are just a kid with a nanny.
Want to learn cosmology, but you happen to be ruled by Islamic theocrats who believe the Earth was created? Bad luck.
First, you will pay your taxes no matter what. why not have the free education. that would eliminate some future trump voters
Second, i do not live in the usa but we have free education in germany and i literally have never read anything about islam or god in my modules.
I doubt that would be the case in the USA considering their relations with the middle east. Especially in a serious science like cosmology.
But hey, Those f22s do look good indeed.
I hear they shoot rockets or something like that. wow wow wow!!!!!
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@Umbrellacorp
i do not live in the usa but we have free education in germany
In Europe, people go to prison for comments they post on internet. Thats the kind of a country free government controlled education gives you.
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@LucyStarfire
In Europe, people go to prison for comments they post on internet. Thats the kind of a country free government controlled education gives you.
I am sorry but this is straight misinformation.
It is true that there are laws against brutal exploitations of free speech (in aaaaallllllllll developed countries. not only in germany or european countries).
We do not have government controlled education. The government provides the facilities but the literature and material is written by professional academics.
And i could argue that exploitation of free speech should indeed be punished. You can really cause harm to someone just by words.
However, this is not the topic here.
Me personally, i would rather have my government invest in education than in super-sonic-stealth-turbojet-ballistic-bullshit fighter jets that only serve the purpose of international domination and fear.
Defense is also important but the usa never fails to prove that they overspend.
I am not saying that i do not understand those who prefer jets. I like jets.
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@Umbrellacorp
This is what European government run education gives you:
"In 2019, there was an uproar over a Madonna with a halo in the colors of the LGBTQ+ movement. All over the country, people filed criminal complaints with the public prosecutor's office against the three young women who had circulated the image. They were accused of "offending religious feelings" by portraying the Madonna in the colors of the rainbow. This is a criminal offense in Poland, punishable by up to two years in prison."
The government provides the facilities but the literature and material is written by professional academics
Really? I thought it was written by rabbits.
Really? I thought it was written by rabbits.
Well then what did you mean by government run.
Who runs the colleges in america?
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@LucyStarfire
This is a criminal offense in Poland, punishable by up to two years in prison."
Were they punished?
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@Umbrellacorp
what did you mean by government run
The government controls how school is run and what is taught.
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@Umbrellacorp
Were they punished?
The mere fact that they were mass reported shows Poland's IQ.
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@LucyStarfire
The government controls how school is run and what is taught.
Literally a lie. We have great fucking schools here. Only 350€ per semeser baby. Free public transport included citywide including outskirts. Now that is what i call government.
The mere fact that they were mass reported shows Poland's IQ.
LOL!
Let's not switch the topic.
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@Umbrellacorp
Literally a lie
Alright, lets ask ChatGPT to see who is right.
"In Germany, the selection of educational material in schools is done by the individual state governments (called Bundesländer).
Here's how it works:
1. Federal Structure
Germany is a federal country, and education is primarily the responsibility of the 16 states (Länder). Each state has its own Ministry of Education, which sets curricula, approves textbooks, and oversees schools.
2. Curriculum and Textbooks Curricula (Lehrpläne) are developed and decided by the state governments. Textbooks and other teaching materials must usually be approved by the state authorities before being used in public schools. Teachers can often choose among approved textbooks, but only within those officially sanctioned options. 3. Role of Teachers
Teachers generally have some freedom in how they teach, but they must stay within the curriculum framework set by the state and often must use state-approved materials.
4. Private Schools
Private schools (Privatschulen) have more freedom, but they still must meet basic educational standards set by the state.
Summary:
Yes, school education material is selected (or approved) by the government, but at the state level, not the federal level. Each German state decides what students learn and which materials are allowed."
Looks like I win.
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@Umbrellacorp
We have great fucking schools here
Then the people who go to those schools must be really stupid, given that Germany is decades behind USA in technology.