Terraria Mafia #1 - DP1

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I'm an NPC... I guess? Know literally nothing about this game.
Don't see the point of a mass soft claim if scum has been given role and character fake claims, but not going to clog up the DP with arguing about it.
you have a point things probably the one game we didn’t need to do it, but since it’s already happened might as well continue with it, gives us something to read into with each player.

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@Lunatic
So 

Tv is a pressure plate or the pressure plate. There are a variety of pressure plates that do many different things 

I am a (x). There are a variety of (x) that do many different things. 


Every other claim so far other is a singular item with no subsets or the base item That has subsets. 


It’s the equivalent of saying I’m Conan. 

I’m a iron pickaxe instead of, I’m a pickaxe 


You are the only person so far that is claiming a tier or sect of an item. Your pm likely should read 

I am crafting tables , or the crafting table 

If it follows what other claims are doing so far. 
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@Mikal
Are you a tier of an npc or a just something like “bird”

No, it has a tier.
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The supa post is my first actual behavior read on him and I agree. It’s odd to latch on to that. I think supa was trying to figure out if he classified as a category and Mharm prob gave him wrong info and didn’t explain it right. You don’t have to be an item that has tiers. You can just be an item with no tiers and I’m assuming that’s what supa is trying to say but having no idea how to articulate it. 
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Clarifying again and sorry. 

Are you the base item or a tier of the item 

Example 

Axe 
Or iron axe

Just say axe or iron axe and I’m groovy 

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Bingo
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after skep confirms and we get two more soft claims that verify my thoughts. I’m okay with getting a full claim from Luna and fully expect it to be something like gunsmith or inventor. 

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@Mikal
Clarifying again and sorry. 

Are you the base item or a tier of the item 

Example 

Axe 
Or iron axe

Just say axe or iron axe and I’m groovy 
Iron axe
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Interesting 

Okay skep is the only other person that is technically a tier of an item

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Luna is reading like scum who had his wagon derailed by a deus ex machina intervention and is struggling to start a new one on someone else.
VTL Luna

I don't care about your claim, what are your reads? Your posts have talked more about theory than about behavior. Outside of Mikal, who do you think is scum, and why? Who do you have town reads on?
thanks for asking for my reads
1. I don’t scum read Mikal, the modslip thing confirms him. If I was scum I wouldn’t be eager to let that confirm him or would dismiss it and sweep it under the rug.

2. As far as reads go, initially tv struck me as town, I don’t see why he would do what he is doing unless he is town. I see no benefit from a scum perspective and his character aligns with his role. Mikal is town based on mharmans responses to the thread. I agree with Mikal about ultras first post seeming townie, though it’s a light town read. I also want to give a light town read to Casey, they are matching their town meta providing great analysis, and finally joebob pinging for activity is a town tell for me. I’d say everyone else is null, except Vader who just struck me as making a scum slip.
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That annoys me a bit because i town read you behavior wise and that’s the first one other than Luna that is putting a bump in my theory. 
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1. Lunatic - crafting table - split / tier 
2. Mikal/Castin - Item - category / not a tier 
3. Ultra - item 
4. Whiteflame - critter category/ not a tier 
5. Pie - NPC
6. Resurget - npc / tier of npc 
7. Casey - Item
8. Savant - NPC
9. Vader - not a tier - single item 
10. Irontoaster - pressure plate - category / not a tier 
11. Joebob - Item - not a tier or category. 
12. Wylted
13. Banana
14. Cerulean

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@Mikal
Every other claim so far other is a singular item with no subsets or the base item That has subsets. 
Mine is the same. You are overthinking the parent aspect of it having a category, I think. But there is only one version of my item as far as I’m aware even though you can find it in many different areas (I’m assuming based on what little I’ve read of the wiki about it, again I don’t play terraria).

Also to argue your notion that I’m scum here, you yourself said I’m good at fake claiming, so why wouldn’t I come up with something more that aligns with other claims in your opinion? Also the mod provided fake claims so why wouldn’t he give me a bad fake claim? See the issues with this logic?
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1. Lunatic - crafting table - split / tier 
2. Mikal/Castin - Item - category / not a tier 
3. Ultra - item 
4. Whiteflame - critter category/ not a tier 
5. Pie - NPC
6. Resurget - npc / tier of npc 
7. Casey - Item
8. Savant - NPC
9. Vader - not a tier - single item 
10. Irontoaster - pressure plate - category / not a tier 
11. Joebob - Item - not a tier or category. 
12. Wylted
13. Banana - item Consumable 
14. Cerulean


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I think you prob for the claim from Someone on your team who knows the game before I started hammering down on the theory i had (if you were scum)
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Can you guys clarify the parent/category aspect of
Your roles. 
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You two as well 
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@Mikal
I think you prob for the claim from Someone on your team who knows the game before I started hammering down on the theory i had (if you were scum)
Which is assuming I got lucky enough to have scum mates in the first place that know the theme. You are going to extreme lengths to disbelieve everything I am saying and not looking at me as possible town. It’s a bit frustrating.
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Tbh call this omgus all you want but feel like Luna is trying to divert attention away from the pressure he’s facing from Mikal and trying to deflect it to someone else. He seemed extremely snappy to call that a “scum slip” and jump on it but I’ve seen in other games when that happened he didn’t jump as soon as possible. Slight fos kn that alone
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@Mikal
How is “consumable” not a tier of item of crafting station is a tier lol why is it arbitrarily listing me different? You see what I mean now about you over thinking this?
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Tbh call this omgus all you want but feel like Luna is trying to divert attention away from the pressure he’s facing from Mikal and trying to deflect it to someone else. He seemed extremely snappy to call that a “scum slip” and jump on it but I’ve seen in other games when that happened he didn’t jump as soon as possible. Slight fos kn that alone

Of course as town I should be wanting to redirect pressure on to actual scum. Pressuring me who is town is a waste of towns time. I said already I’d be willing to comply so we could move on to hunting scum. It would be hypocritical of me to suggest moving on but not suggest a path to move towards. You scum slipped which is a very Vader-esque thing to do.

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I’m asking her to clarify if she is. 

She could be something like a flask or a potion etc 

And each of those have tiers of the item. 

Can be swiftness, iron skin etc. 
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@Mikal
How does Luna typically respond to FOS as scum vs. town? You probably have more experience playing with him than anyone else.
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You literally modded a game where I “scumslipped” and was town. This is genuinely pushing an agenda. I think you have gotten a bit more aggressive for something that seemingly everyone understood besides yourself. So I think you are trying to stir up a mislynch or draw attention so the focus can shift off you


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He will get annoyed and push back as both. I think as scum he tends to be more aggressive with fighting it but I’ve seen him do it as town to 


Even entertaining I’m wrong. Contemplating I may have got him as scum for the wrong reasons and debating how he would respond to that. 


I still am not letting go of my theory just yet. As you are the only other person who kinda invalidates it which is annoying lol 
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I think the part I’m stuck on more than any of this is why just say you are a crafting station so openly. Instead of saying item which was what we are asking for. 


Because saying you are a crafting station heavily implies you craft items and there is no way scum does not see that as a power role. So I can’t wrap my head around why just say it yolo when it makes you a target if you are town 
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@Mikal
Let’s move on from this.

I am the loom, a crafting station that can be crafter or found in underground cabins that crafts apparel primarily using silk that strengthens your character. Thus I am the strengthener and can choose a player each night to guarantee the effect of their night action.
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Also I feel like Casey’s reads and everything lean town. Even when they were busy with work there was substantive effort to contribute so I feel like they have a slight town read to them
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@Mikal
I think the part I’m stuck on more than any of this is why just say you are a crafting station so openly. Instead of saying item which was what we are asking for. 
Because a crafting station is a big thing. When I think of an item I think of something you can carry or maybe put in a pocket. Technically a crafting station can be called an item but it didn’t feel like one entirely.