I have no good reads yet but I am just reading on breaks at work. Stopped reading at page 3 and started reading at page 8 or so again so still a lot of catching up that I may just abandon to focus on the present
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Fuck it I’m character claiming so this can be left behind
I am a shortsword
My PM was listed as Short Sword. That’s why I was so confused. Mharman clarified the issue and said it was one word
I can buy it
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@whiteflame
I also can't say I read Luna's frustration as scummy - I think it's NAI since he's bound to be frustrated whether he's scum or town based on this fixation - but the claim sets me off a bit. Not so much for the existence of a loom in game (again, I don't know enough about Terraria to speak on that), but on the Strengthener claim, specifically. Since similarity to the Wiki has been mentioned, I'll say straight up that there's not a lot on the Wiki about my character, so there's not much to copy. The details of my justification aren't obvious from reading it, so Mikal may be onto something there.
I agree with this. Strengthener is one of those claims that's always going to come off as suspicious. It's an easy way to account for being seen visiting someone by a Tracker or similar and it can't really be disproven short of a CC.
I will say that I also did not like when Luna said they townread me earlier, mainly because I realize that I haven't actually contributed very much this game. It reminded me of Microbiology Mafia when Luna said he townread me off of what felt like very little to me. That rubbed me the wrong way. Luna's meta as scum is to buddy players he sees as strong town players. But on the other hand, Vader also townreads me for largely the same reasons, and I don't think that he and Luna are likely paired, so idk.
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@Vader
My PM was listed as Short Sword. That’s why I was so confused. Mharman clarified the issue and said it was one word
Okay, I buy this.
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@JoeBob
Something about lunatics claim seems off. I can’t quite place it as of right now however.
Don’t be a bandwagoner. Be a free thinker. I had hope for you this game, don’t shred that hope by being dumb.
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@Lunatic
It’s frustrating because it’s entirely based on my claim. And you know me, I am not a shite fake claimed. Mike said this too, yet somehow all the focus is on how bad my claim is. You don’t think I would have come up with something better than strengthener? I literally cannot respond to wifom about why my role and character is what the mod fvcking assigned me to be. I figured being honest was the move here but now I am thinking I should have just lied and fake claimed as town because apparently you guys know more than the mod does about his own theme.
I can only speak to the obvious, dude. I'm not expecting you to justify the existence of a Strengthener, but the dejected throw up your hands response is not exactly helping your case, at least not with me. Sure, you could have come up with something better. You certainly have a tendency as scum to make risky claims. It's entirely plausible, though, that you were given Strengthener as a fake claim and went with it. Or you decided to play it safe with this claim for what you anticipated would be a longer haul game, given the number of players. I'm not saying this suits your usual scum playstyle, but I also can't ignore it.
And no, I haven't claimed to know anything about the theme this entire game. That's been part of Mikal's basis for pushing you, not mine.
I didn’t get that from his responses it seems like you are making that excuse for him but okay.
I don't know how you interpret this post by him clarifying the reason, but that's how I interpret it.
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@Casey_Risk
I will say that I also did not like when Luna said they townread me earlier, mainly because I realize that I haven't actually contributed very much this game. It reminded me of Microbiology Mafia when Luna said he townread me off of what felt like very little to me. That rubbed me the wrong way. Luna's meta as scum is to buddy players he sees as strong town players. But on the other hand, Vader also townreads me for largely the same reasons, and I don't think that he and Luna are likely paired, so idk.
Jesus Christ. Not a single person town reads me. Idk what I did wrong. Just mislynch me so I can laugh at you from the graveyard. I actively want scum to win now. You all can go fuck yourselves.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
@Mikal
Sorry for not posting much. Working basically around the clock on the new site, but I will try to participate in this game still. Rn I'm getting caught up.
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@whiteflame
Don’t give a sh1t dude just mislynch me. Go fvck yo urself
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@Lunatic
@Vader
I am a shortswordMy PM was listed as Short Sword. That’s why I was so confused. Mharman clarified the issue and said it was one word
And that makes sense to me. Follows from what my understanding of his clarification was as well.
Yall a bunch of fvcking retards I hope town loses this
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@Lunatic
Don’t give a sh1t dude just mislynch me. Go fvck yo urself
...I don't even have a vote up on you, I'm just clarifying my reservations with your claim. Calm down man.
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@irontoaster
Mikal, JoeBob and maybe Cerulean for scum team?
Why do you think JoeBob and Ceru are scum?
That to me comes off as scum Luna to answer skeps question earlier. I may be wrong and I’d have to go look but I feel like the blow up throw your hands up is slam thing him and I both tend to do as scum to feign sincerity
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@Mikal
That to me comes off as scum Luna to answer skeps question earlier. I may be wrong and I’d have to go look but I feel like the blow up throw your hands up is slam thing him and I both tend to do as scum to feign sincerity
That was exactly my foggy recollection from my DDO days, just wanted someone to confirm it for me.
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@Lunatic
Jesus Christ. Not a single person town reads me. Idk what I did wrong. Just mislynch me so I can laugh at you from the graveyard. I actively want scum to win now. You all can go fuck yourselves.
I literally gave a behavioral reason to sus you based on your behavior in a previous game where you were scum. Isn't that what you were asking for? Everyone gets scumread as town sometimes, it's not that big of a deal. That's just how this game works.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
Im Notorious for it and I know he does it as well. I feel like it may be happening here cus it’s dp1. When scum Luna can eat a bus he will but there is no real chance to.
I’m going to read through some other games
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@Mikal
That to me comes off as scum Luna to answer skeps question earlier. I may be wrong and I’d have to go look but I feel like the blow up throw your hands up is slam thing him and I both tend to do as scum to feign sincerity
Cool. Ima gonna rub this in your face so fvcking hard
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@Casey_Risk
I literally gave a behavioral reason to sus you based on your behavior in a previous game where you were scum. Isn't that what you were asking for? Everyone gets scumread as town sometimes, it's not that big of a deal. That's just how this game works.
Your scum reading me for town reading you lol. It’s a retarded arse read. Literally eat sh1t
I want town to lose so bad. You deserve this.
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@Lunatic
I’ll eat it if im wrong
I think there is a lot to consider.
1) you claimed with really on me pressuring you to get me off you. No one else was really buying it fully. That reads me as odd
2) you immediately deflect onto supa to try and get people off you. Granted you would do this as town sure, but that entire interaction came off as please just leave me alone when I think it’s easy to assume there was an explanation for why supa said and did what he did. He was responding to me asking him for a category and already said he had 0 idea about the game. So him being on wiki trying to figure that out makes sense. I think town Luna prob would at least consider things like this instead of immediately trying to deflect
3) we both tend to get annoyed when people won’t listen or we are getting tunneled. If I can recall town you, doesn’t throw your hands up and get pissed. They actually try and justify a reason why the reads are wrong. If you can point me to a game where you have ever rage quit as town, I’ll backtrack but I’m like 90 percent sure this both our scum metas and you call me out on it all the time
4) there are parts about your pm I don’t like. The justification does make sense to a degree but the this wording and other parts, seem very inconsistent with mine. He seemed like he kinda half assed the justification and it reads nothing like how it would read from the wiki when yours is almost a carbon copy.
That being said you are scum, and flip scum. The bigger question to me is why not use the fake claim. Or maybe that was the fake claim and it’s why you’re mad. Not sure. But I def and just pinging scum with you. I do agree I tend to do a good job at knowing when you are town and this doesn’t feel town.
Also to note, the reason I was continuing the category thing was to see who would jump on a Luna wagon. After he claimed it somewhat made sense, not fully and it seems weird but a claim was enough for me to back off. So was interested in who would try and push him with me.
I just did expect the response he gave. I started reading him as scum for his role. Then we he claimed I was willing to pull back after i saw his wagon but now the response seems overly defensive and I’m now reading him as scum off behavior.
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@Mikal
1) you claimed with really on me pressuring you to get me off you. No one else was really buying it fully. That reads me as odd
You are literally town confirmed. Out of all the players in the game right now your opinion mattered most to me based on that fact alone.
I am not a retard like AR who’s gonna hold up the game by being stubborn about claiming. I figured if I comply with you, me and you can figure out the rest of the scum and work together and be a force like we were in feminist mafia. Boy was I wrong. I could have played this a million ways to be an asshole and don’t have to claim a thing. I claim because my role really isnt more important than finding and catching scum.
2) you immediately deflect onto supa to try and get people off you. Granted you would do this as town sure, but that entire interaction came off as please just leave me alone when I think it’s easy to assume there was an explanation for why supa said and did what he did. He was responding to me asking him for a category and already said he had 0 idea about the game. So him being on wiki trying to figure that out makes sense. I think town Luna prob would at least consider things like this instead of immediately trying to deflect
It’s not a deflect. Vader commonly fvcks up and scum slips as scum. You are only scum reading me for my claim which I have no control over. Like I said I’m not gonna respond to wifom about my claim, if you have behavioral reads that’s one thing but you don’t. I’m gonna focus on hunting scum because I’m town. Not defending myself against something I can’t defend myself about.
3) we both tend to get annoyed when people won’t listen or we are getting tunneled. If I can recall town you, doesn’t throw your hands up and get pissed. They actually try and justify a reason why the reads are wrong. If you can point me to a game where you have ever rage quit as town, I’ll backtrack but I’m like 90 percent sure this both our scum metas and you call me out on it all the time
There isn’t a single thing I’m being pressured for that I can defend against. I get you think my claim is scummy. Take it up with mharman. I’ve always said behavior =\= claim and that fact that the only reason I’m being sussed for is my claim is extremely infuriating. If you were in my shoes you’d be crashing out too, don’t fvcking lie to me you know you would. I can find like three eliminster games where you did. Your being a fvcking hypocrite.
4) there are parts about your pm I don’t like. The justification does make sense to a degree but the this wording and other parts, seem very inconsistent with mine. He seemed like he kinda half assed the justification and it reads nothing like how it would read from the wiki when yours is almost a carbon copy.
Take it up with mharman after I flip then, but I’m 100% gonna use this against you any chance I can if you ever do this type of thing in the future. I’m gonna make this game haunt the sh1t out of you.
That being said you are scum, and flip scum. The bigger question to me is why not use the fake claim. Or maybe that was the fake claim and it’s why you’re mad. Not sure. But I def and just pinging scum with you. I do agree I tend to do a good job at knowing when you are town and this doesn’t feel town.
Your being so fvcking stupid right now I literally can’t comprehend it.
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@whiteflame
@Casey_Risk
None of this is personal btw I’m being a d1ck but it’s mostly because of Mikal, and I’m taking it out on everyone. Sorry. But if you lynch me for my claim over behavior I’m still gonna use this against you lol
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@Mikal
I'm caught up. Reconsider this Luna read, dude. I've literally never seen scum beg to be lynched (plz find one example if you can). And Luna is choosing to go nuclear just because they're being scum read. If Luna was scum, they could play it cooler and let their scum team help them out.
Also, this strategy never works for avoiding lynches. Someone will be like "go ahead lynch me idc" and we lynch them and they're town. Almost every time. I will not be voting Luna today unless there's a very good reason to change my mind.
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@Mikal
I just did expect the response he gave. I started reading him as scum for his role. Then we he claimed I was willing to pull back after i saw his wagon but now the response seems overly defensive and I’m now reading him as scum off behavior.
Every time I crash out for being pressured it’s when I am town. Every single time. You have short term memory, this just happened with RM. being pushed and not being given a good reason why is what causes me to crash out. You saw that with AR and you are seeing it now because you are doing the same fvcking thing.
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@Lunatic
point to me a game where you crashed out as town and I’ll consider backing off. Like crashed out for being scum read. I agree I would crash out but I do it was more often as scum. When my town meta is just if you want to lynch me for it, go ahead and I’ll lol
But the above read as totally giving up and if you point me to a town crash out when you are being read as scum. It will back me off. Me and you both are notorious about this as scum
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@Lunatic
I saw it happen with RM but I’m saying you getting hard focused and crash out and saying fuck it.
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@Lunatic
None of this is personal btw I’m being a d1ck but it’s mostly because of Mikal, and I’m taking it out on everyone. Sorry. But if you lynch me for my claim over behavior I’m still gonna use this against you lol
I mean, fair enough, but being frustrated has never been all that important to alignment, at least not with you since this is far from the first time we’ve had it out and we’ve both done it as scum and as town. I think framing it as that this is how town will sink itself because we’d lose a Strengthener to a DP1 mislynch is a bit much, but I get why you’d be annoyed enough to say that.