Terraria Mafia #1 - DP1

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Single link to an example? I've played a decent number of games and never seen it. Luna blowing up like this makes him the easy lynch. Would have been much easier for another target to emerge if scum Luna had played it cool or let his scum buddies redirect attention.
Well I haven't played forum mafia in ages and DDO is gone so no. But it's very common in live mafia. I remember Luna, who is TUF iirc, doing it often. YYW would do it too.
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Scum would probably be quick to throw him under the bus though too for town cred I think.
They don't have to yet though. Luna is the top suspect because he made himself the top suspect.

Well I haven't played forum mafia in ages and DDO is gone so no. But it's very common in live mafia.
I mean maybe that's the difference. In live mafia you don't have as much time to come up with a sophisticated strategy, so getting mad is the easiest to come up with under pressure. In forums scum can plan things out together, run posts by each other, etc. so it's easier for them to keep their cool.
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I genuinely don’t have time to argue this like a debater and go line-by-line through your responses, even if I wanted to. Got more than enough on my hands at work. I just don’t love the fact that you keep saying I’m doing things that I’m not doing. I never said you were game throwing, and it’s weird that you’d think I wouldn’t consider evidence to the contrary of what I’ve already stated or would go so far as to dig far back into the archives to search for counter-examples.

As for whether this matches previous games you’ve played as scum in terms of the thought you put into your claim, yeah, it doesn’t. It’s not consistent with how you behaved in that Microbiology game or what I saw you do there. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible that you’d behave this way as scum, but it’s something I’m considering.

Now I’ve got to focus on work for a couple of hours and this is drawing too much of my attention.
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Reads, these will be quick early reads, I don't have tons of opinions right now.

1. Lunatic- Lean scum based on his reactions
2. Mikal/Castin- Town confirmed
3. Ultra- Null
4. Whiteflame- Null
5. Pie- Null
6. Resurget- Lean town based on his play so far, he seems to be asking the right questions and not joining oppertunistic lynch against lunatic despite voicing his opinion against him
7. Casey- Lean townTurned on lunatic after he town read her, probably makes her more likely town as I think scum would enjoy and town cred they could get
8. Savant- I kind of scum read him based on low effort, but I also kind of buy his excuses too and know hes been busy on the other site. If lunatic is scum, hes probably town, I dont see scum buddying their teamate like that,
9. Vader- town lean If lunatic is scum hes probably town, as he seems to be lunas intended mislynch, unless its a bus, which could be the case, but for now I dont think its a bus
10. Irontoaster- Town, based on his claim accuracy and earliness of it, plus un cc'ed cop
11. Joebob- null
12. Wylted- Null
14. Cerulean - Null


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All I said was that I think something about your claim is off and that I couldn’t place it. I’m not bandwagoning anything.
Some phrases/wording seems to be copied directly from the wiki. Now this could be either Mharman copying it himself for sake of people understanding it easier,  or you going out on the fly and quickly making up a claim, which in fairness is not something I remember you doing, but I could be wrong.

Please focus on behavior then. Mislynching because of a claim the mod gave me is super gay.
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Well I haven't played forum mafia in ages and DDO is gone so no. But it's very common in live mafia.
I mean maybe that's the difference. In live mafia you don't have as much time to come up with a sophisticated strategy, so getting mad is the easiest to come up with under pressure. In forums scum can plan things out together, run posts by each other, etc. so it's easier for them to keep their cool.
I don't know, I can see being so invested in a game like DP4 to wig out over being lynch as town but in DP1 it seems like bizarre behavior for a townie. But also that's my line of reasoning. My strongest scum read is on Luna that's mostly down to wide inactivity. What were your thoughts on iron toaster's claim? I'm kind of on the fence about that. Some people said it was a townie thing to do because it was a big risk, but it's also a perfect fakeclaim as scum because it would dissuade investigation and give him an excuse for visiting someone. If scum were given cop as a fake claim they could add the bomb aspect and know they were safe from counterclaims.
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a claim the mod gave me
Why phrase it as "a claim the mod gave me" and not "a role the mod created"? We know scum have fake claims, calling it a "claim" is almost saying it's fake.
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@whiteflame
I genuinely don’t have time to argue this like a debater and go line-by-line through your responses, even if I wanted to. Got more than enough on my hands at work. I just don’t love the fact that you keep saying I’m doing things that I’m not doing. I never said you were game throwing, and it’s weird that you’d think I wouldn’t consider evidence to the contrary of what I’ve already stated or would go so far as to dig far back into the archives to search for counter-examples.
What? I didn't say that you said I was game throwing, I pointed out that you are adding pressure (not necessarily with vote) on me based on my claim alone.

As for whether this matches previous games you’ve played as scum in terms of the thought you put into your claim, yeah, it doesn’t. It’s not consistent with how you behaved in that Microbiology game or what I saw you do there. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible that you’d behave this way as scum, but it’s something I’m considering.
Thankyou. At least you are being more open minded than mikal. 
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@Savant
Why phrase it as "a claim the mod gave me" and not "a role the mod created"? We know scum have fake claims, calling it a "claim" is almost saying it's fake.
Anything about my role pm I say is going to be phrased as a "claim" because it only stands on whether its believed by the collective. 
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This is more of what I’m basing my thoughts on When I say meta 
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@Vader
Confirming again. Mharm said you did not have tiered items?
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@Mikal
This is more of what I’m basing my thoughts on When I say meta
Sorry having a blonde moment what do you mean?
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I mean when I say I remember him doing this as scum all the time. I was referring to live mafia games because him and I both did it non stop 

That being said he did tweak out on RM DP1 as town if you consider that to be similar to this 
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Say what you will about RM, but I don't think he should be used as a barometer of normal human behavior.
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That being said he did tweak out on RM DP1 as town if you consider that to be similar to this 
I don't remember it being such a huge crashout but I was also kind of lazy that game. It is a point I'll take into consideration. I can see points for and against his favor. I'll expand on my thoughts some more later, at work rn
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No he said my character itself is not tiered. My however my pm mentions tiers but it is not my character. Especially one in particular 
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What 

I literally do not understand this at all 

1) you have tiers and you are saying the mod said you didn’t?

2) your pm says something about tiers?
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@Mikal
Help me lynch vader. 
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He literally cannot get his story straight. 
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@Vader
No he said my character itself is not tiered. My however my pm mentions tiers but it is not my character. Especially one in particular 
What do you mean? Like you are a short sword (no metal) but your pm mentions an iron axe? Or an iron sword?
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I low-key thing he’s lying now. I asked Mharm was my character a category or had tiers. Said he could not tell me and linked me the wiki 
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But supa said Mharm told him directly he was not a category. He is lol
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Yes. My character is Short Sword, but my pm mentions that I have multiple tiers
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@Vader
Can you tell us exactly what your role PM says?
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I’m not a category. My character has multiple but my claimed character does not categories. Period. 
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Wait nvm I forgot you're not allowed to copy-paste PMs in forum mafia.
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@Vader
Mharm told you, you weren’t a category? When your pm said you had tiers of that category. 


What, bro you are actually making me second guess myself now 


It’s the fact you said Mharm answered for you when he i asked the same thing and he linked me the wiki 
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Okay so short is a category 

It’s literally the equivalent of an axe being iron, gold, etc 

Short sword is that 

It has copper, gladius, etc 


There is a whole fuck ton of short swords and short sword to my knowledge isn’t even an item in the game. 
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Unvote 

VTl supa 
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No it isnt

My character is just shortsword. Thats what it is. It can be have multiple tiers according to PM. Don’t know what’s hard 

Can we focus on actually hunting scum instead of this useless split