Terraria Mafia #1 - DP1

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This is hard to read.

Is there a way to see who's liked a post? I've seen a couple I'd like to know, although I'm not sure how relevant it would be.
Nope
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@WyIted
Please remove your vote 
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I really struggle to follow how lost he is. Specifically because I used axe and iron axe to clarify what I was asking for and his is short swords - and references a copper sword in his pm. Much less he said he was on the wiki 


Can someone tell I’m nuts for thinking it’s impassible to mess this up. Is he really this dense accident or is it a fake claim scrambling. 
I think he messed up the fake claim. The example you gave was clear. Like so clear. Idk how you read that and answer the way Supa did.
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I'm townlocking Savant for today minimum unless someone can provide me an example of him running a risky claim like that as scum.
Why is it a risky claim?
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VTL Vader
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I don’t think that’s the issue tbh. The issue is the fact that he’s contradicting what he said about his own PM.

Cause he claimed after he revealed there wasn’t tiers, so it’s possible he just messed up the fake claim. Wouldn’t be the first time he’s messed up. 
See my post #661. 
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Waiting for wylted and supa to unvote. 
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Why? 
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Want to test if you are 2x or if super is lying. 
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So the theory is that we have a town member whose votes are worth double and we want to expose that to scum for what reason?

Maybe it's a scum vote but doubtful they would expose it this early if that was the case they would likely save it for a hammer
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Fine I am 2x no need to unvote and my vote is worth double I cannot choose to have it weighted as one

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We have to fight this instinct as town to have to know everything. It's not very damaging here but it could be at some point
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Vote Count

Vader (4/8) - Mikal/Castin, Lunatic, Savant, Pie
Casey (2/8) - Casey, Ultra
Lunatic (1/8) - Vader
Cerulean (1/8) - Resurget
VTNL (1/8) - Irontoaster
Joebob (1/8) - Cerulean
Mikal (1/8) Banana

Not Voting (3) Whiteflame, Joebob, Wylted

14,700 people on July 4, 2024: https://youtu.be/ugOozHgcZYA

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That’s not anti town. We were stuck on scum having an invisible voter. May as well go ahead and full claim 
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No way would scum expose it there. I am the chest. Have to open my message to remember justification but generally if a double voter is town read they are killed early by scum for obvious reasons
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So chests naturally generate and have a lot of impact early game hence I am double voter. I should have maybe waited to hammer to keep that secret but shit happens and I thought it wouldn't be questioned
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Yeah I’m inclined to think double voter is scum more than town and wanted to confirm there is not a hidden voter. Also checked Id supa is lying. 


Can you say your justification?
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Disregard 
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I don't really understand why you'd play coy and keep the fact that you are a double voter hidden while it was obvious that something was up with the votes. The scum team would have easily been able to figure out that you were the double voter anyway (they almost certainly already did). 

Also, 


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I was hoping for a situation where it's LYLO or something and they thought they could quick hammer but I beat them to the punch like a 2 v 1 situation or something


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Probably unlikely but I like to take tiny edges where I can
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Unvote 

For Mikal. Revolt after Mharman 

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Double voter as scum seems like a weird balance decision, since it essentially gives Town one less mislynch by its mere presence.

WyIted moves up a tier, in my opinion.
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I can only remember seeing a double voter once, on MU, and they were Town.
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I think we should mod kill mharman for deleting his message yesterday
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Double voter as scum seems like a weird balance decision, since it essentially gives Town one less mislynch by its mere presence.
Depends on how it's implemented. It's not uncommon for roles like that to deactivate at MYLO/LYLO - you should be aware of that possibility, given that you were on the scum team with the Vote Thief that had the same debuff in The Russian Mafia. 

I do townread Wylted for other reasons, however. I feel like scum Wylted would have jumped on Vader's wagon by this point. #710 also feels like it's coming from town Wylted to me; it lines up with his meta. 
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If you have like 11 players or something than it makes sense with an odd number like that to try and help scum a bit by giving them a double voter. Then again the only games I really design well are set ups indirectly steal from mafiascum that worked out great
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What are your reads?
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VTL Casey

For obvious scum slip the rest of you all missed
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