Terraria Mafia #1 - DP1

Author: Mharman

Posts

Read-only
Total: 923
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
No I asked him to vote to test the dbl vote 
Yeah, he clarified, makes sense.

Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
My gut is telling me it’s whiteflame and I can’t explain why. It’s doing that shit where I just read him as scum 
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
Like jumping on pies claim to super. I feel like 20 hours scum would want a mislynch. It’s really making me guess the case I started on supa. I pushed it and pie is on now wf is also asking about pies post. 


It just feels weird 

Unvote 

Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@ILikePie5
Mikal explicitly gave the example with the axe. It’s literally verbatim. His own PM contradicts the whole tier thing. Not to mention him asking Mharman something that was explicitly written in his PM.
He said that his character wasn't tiered but his PM mentioned tiers. In other words, it didn't have an adjective (like 'iron axe') but there were still tiers to his character. This is also how Vader himself explained his post. It just took me a bit to get what he was saying. Vader can be kind of confusing sometimes. 

Maybe, but I think you as scum would have gone for the bus anyway. It'd fit with your style.
How so?
Wylted is a very bold player, both as town and as scum, but especially as scum imo. I'd expect him to be willing to take the risk of an early bus. Maybe he still wouldn't, but I wouldn't expect him to make a post like #687:

I have no reason to town read supa so I am willing to vote for him if we are forced to in order to coalesce around a lynch. I can't help but to think there must be a better option available though 
It's so passive. It kind of defends him but also kind of doesn't. I don't think this would necessarily mean anything for some, maybe even most other players, but I'd expect scum Wylted to be more decisive, either defending Vader outright or just voting for him. The fact that he's being so open to other options, however, makes me feel like he's town. It's also how I knew he was town in The Sopranos Mafia - after Vader contradicted what I said about how my role worked, he could have just said that, started a wagon on me, and I probably would have been lynched. But he didn't, because he wasn't trying to lead a lynch on anyone, he was a townie trying to get a solid read on me so he could accurately solve the game. That's the Wylted I've seen so far in this game. 
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
My gut is telling me it’s whiteflame and I can’t explain why. It’s doing that shit where I just read him as scum 
I'd be surprised if anyone's townreading me so far, but the gut scumread's surprising. I'll claim if pushed to do so.
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@Mikal
My gut is telling me it’s whiteflame and I can’t explain why. It’s doing that shit where I just read him as scum 
I can see that. WF is in my null reads right now and I'd be okay with pursuing him as a potential lynch option. I don't particularly like any of the wagons that have already formed.
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
I can’t explain it. I have this fucking radar with whiteflame and it’s going off 
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
I can’t explain it. I have this fucking radar with whiteflame and it’s going off 
Considering you're basically town confirmed, I'll claim if you want. Don't think you'll like it, but not a lot I can do about that.

Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
-->
@whiteflame
Shoot 
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
Fine. Owl. I travel between buildings and make noise. I'm the Compulsive Visitor.
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
-->
@whiteflame
Dear god dude 
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
Told you you wouldn't like it, but you asked.
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
whether I believe you is largely contingent on whether I believe tv 
Cerulean
Cerulean's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 567
3
2
4
Cerulean's avatar
Cerulean
3
2
4
-->
@ILikePie5
I really appreciate the fact that we've already outed several useless roles that will now proceed to never get nightkilled. Truly stellar gameplay we have going on here.

JoeBob reeks town
Elaborate, I've seen almost zero original thought.
Cerulean
Cerulean's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 567
3
2
4
Cerulean's avatar
Cerulean
3
2
4
Unless that's normal Town Joebob?
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
mafia will kill me and that’s fine. 

whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
Not sure I see the connection, but since I believe him, that doesn't bother me.
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
-->
@whiteflame
I mean if I believe him I don’t believe you lol. 


Will iso a few people tomorrow 

Right now I’m between 

You 
Pie 
Or supa 

And if I I believe supa (which I’m still trying to figure out if he’s that confused) then it’s prob you or pie atm. 
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 10,910
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@Mikal
Right now I’m between 

You 
Pie 
Or sup
Only one out of these three id lynch is supa. Any others I will advocate against. 
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
-->
@Lunatic
You buy a compulsive visitor z?
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
I mean if I believe him I don’t believe you lol. 
Still don't get the connection, but you've clearly got something in mind.

There are worse choices for a mislynch since I'm likely to be scumread based on any Tracking/Watching that goes on if I pick the wrong target. I'd prefer we don't seek more claims at this point since I'd rather not give away more town roles - we've already restricted who could have the PRs substantially given the claims so far - and you know my and Pie's current sus is on Vader, which is apparently making you second-guess that pick. I've been townreading Pie behaviorally and I like his reasoning, so I think pushing him is a mistake. If you and others thirst for one of our blood, might as well be mine.
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@Cerulean
Unless that's normal Town Joebob?
He's like that as both alignments from what I've seen. I did like his vibes early in the DP, but he's mostly lost me since then. I'm feeling a similar way about you, tbh. 
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 10,910
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@Mikal
You buy a compulsive visitor z?
Who claimed that and what was the claim?
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Lunatic
Fine. Owl. I travel between buildings and make noise. I'm the Compulsive Visitor.
Me. Here.

JoeBob
JoeBob's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,745
3
3
7
JoeBob's avatar
JoeBob
3
3
7
-->
@whiteflame
Fine. Owl. I travel between buildings and make noise. I'm the Compulsive Visitor.
I’m a bit rusty, what does the compulsive visitor do and why are people acting like it’s a scummy role
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@JoeBob
I’m a bit rusty, what does the compulsive visitor do and why are people acting like it’s a scummy role
The compulsive visitor has to visit someone every night, but the visit doesn't do anything. It's scummy because it's a convenient way to explain having visited someone. 
JoeBob
JoeBob's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,745
3
3
7
JoeBob's avatar
JoeBob
3
3
7
-->
@Casey_Risk
Oh 
Cerulean
Cerulean's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 567
3
2
4
Cerulean's avatar
Cerulean
3
2
4
-->
@JoeBob
They must target and visit a player each Night. I take it to mean that we have at least one or two roles in play that interact heavily with visits. Watchman, Stalker, Rampage attacks, etc.
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 10,910
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
Yeah I buy it. scum WF would come up with something better than that. Inb4 what about COD mafia?! You dont think he'd have learned from that one? Supa is still the lynch for me. 
Cerulean
Cerulean's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 567
3
2
4
Cerulean's avatar
Cerulean
3
2
4
Probably not rampage attacks, I hardly ever see those in forum games and I think this game has enough KP already.